PART 7 “MINISTRY AI AND I” FIRST CHURCH, SR OFFICE SCANDALS “IDENTIFYING THE GOSSIP MINISTRIES” ISAIAH 58 RELATIONSHIP FAST

NOTE this was first posted www.ministryandi.com Dec 2024

Note; Dr T has prior on this “ISAIAH 58 FAST” for. few years.

But to be fully OBJECTIVE she passes this through ChatGPT AI

PART 7 “MINISTRY AI AND I” IDENTIFYING THE CHRISTIAN GOSSIP MINISTRIES ISAIAH 58

Q. LORD, WHY HAVE WE FASTED YET YOU DO NOT SEE?

POSSIBLE A? Read Isaiah 58 ” RELATIONSHIP DEVALUING, DISRESPECTING”

THE NATION OF ISAIAH FAST 58 (God’s Leaders)

“Through the Eyes of Relationships”

(2017 first addressed in several articles DFW, Ft Mil, Article Taveau D’Arcy)

Taveau’s A.R.T: Abiding Relationship Theology = A.R.T. “Deep inside each human heart is A.R.T. Either it’s safe, conscientious and respecting, caring A.R.T. or avoidant, dysfunctional, self-centric, defeatist A.R.T. (sly, cunning, deceptive)

TO DO :Read. notes each RELATIONSHIP mentioned subtly in EVERY verse :

Example”Verses 1-2 “the people seem to have a relationship the Lord God”tions /self)

1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.

Verses 3 “relationship with the most High God and also with their own hearts and work( actions /self)

3 Wherefore have we fasted, say they, and thou seest not? wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours.

Verse 4 “ he assesses their use of their own power and humiltiy (relationship/their actions”
4 Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high

Verse 5 “True Fasting purposes: humbling
5 Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the Lord?

Verses 6 “note how all of this pertains to liberating, freeing others (assorted relationships)

6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?

Verses 7 to the end, Dr T releases each reader to note and assess RELATIONSHIPSS actions and God throughout

7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?

8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the Lord shall be thy rereward.

9 Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;

10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday:

11 And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

NOTE: This is not a Legalism, but a Submitted Selah which is precept which pleases the Lord if HE impresses YOU to take note of any or a lot of it!

Pastor Taveau D’Arcy ask ChatGPT AI

Evaluate ISAIAH 58 through Relationships, also through the Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic—if they fit in the national “Why have you fasted?” from Isaiah?

And does might ISAIAH 58 (not meaning under the Hebrew Torah but through freedom in Christ) pertain to a Christian “relationship respect” fast at all?

How might this tie into TMZ-style Christian gossip ministry, leaking private, confidential personal ministry, family, board, and staff matters that were trusted to be kept within the board, staff, and ministry business?

Also this assumes (Christian modern day) that there was no Non-Disclosure Agreement signed because all were “committed to abiding by the Bible,” and trust, honor, and valor were expected “as before God’s eyes,” respecting family and relationships in a Christian First Church “supposed trust.” Evaluate this in the context of modern-day business charismatic ministry, showbiz, wannabeism, and factions—both tongue-talking and not. Any additional insights are welcome.

Chat GPT AI replies:

The topic you’re raising is rich with theological, cultural, and ethical layers. Let’s break it down systematically, aligning it with the biblical, cultural, and modern-day ministry dynamics you’ve described.

1. Relationships in Isaiah 58 and the Concept of Fasting

Isaiah 58 addresses the Israelites’ complaints that their fasting was not yielding visible results. The chapter emphasizes that God does not desire ritualistic fasting devoid of justice, mercy, and genuine relational respect. Instead, the true fast that pleases God includes:

Loosing the bonds of wickedness (v. 6)
Undoing heavy burdens (v. 6)
Setting the oppressed free (v. 6)
Sharing with the needy (v. 7)
Not hiding from your own flesh (v. 7)

This suggests that God values relational integrity, social justice, and care for others over religious rituals performed for self-righteous gain. Applied to Christian relationship respect, it underscores that spiritual practices like fasting are meant to foster humility, empathy, and unity—starting within families, ministries, and leadership teams.

2. Does Isaiah 58 Apply to a “Christian Relationship Respect” Fast?

Yes, Isaiah 58 can serve as a template for fostering respect and reconciliation in Christian relationships. A “relationship respect fast” could include examining and correcting:

Abusive power dynamics within ministries or families.
Gossip and slander that fracture trust and unity.
Failure to honor commitments to confidentiality and integrity.

This aligns with Paul’s teachings in the New Testament, such as Romans 12:10 (“Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves”) and Ephesians 4:29 (“Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths…”).

Men. and women, this is WHY I am not a charismatic since 2012 DFW and now have Cross Body Unity.

3. The TMZ-Like Gossip Culture in Modern Christian Ministry

The rise of “TMZ Christian gossip ministry” reflects a troubling shift toward sensationalism and exploitation, which are antithetical to biblical values. This includes:

Public exposure of private matters without biblical reconciliation processes (Matthew 18:15-17).
Monetizing scandal for views or attention, echoing the love of money condemned in 1 Timothy 6:10.
Breaking trust within leadership structures, violating both biblical and ethical expectations.

Biblically, leaking confidential information undermines trust and respect, which are foundational to healthy relationships and effective ministry. Proverbs 11:13 says, “A gossip betrays a confidence, but a trustworthy person keeps a secret.” The absence of legal NDAs in such settings doesn’t negate the moral obligation to uphold confidentiality.

4. Comparing Biblical and Modern-Day Ministry Practices

The First Church model emphasized relational respect, trust, and communal accountability, often contrasted with modern ministry’s celebrity culture and factionalism. Consider these aspects:

Biblical First Church Practices
- Leaders like Paul and Peter emphasized humility, service, and community care.
- Decision-making involved prayer, mutual submission, and collective discernment (Acts 15).
Modern-Day Showbiz Ministry
- Factionalism and “wannabeism” thrive on self-promotion rather than servant leadership.
- Gossip and slander are used as tools for gaining influence or controlling narratives.

Paul’s warnings about factions in 1 Corinthians 1:10-13 and Galatians 5:19-21 apply here. He identified jealousy, fits of rage, and selfish ambition as works of the flesh that destroy unity.

5. Charismatic vs. Non-Charismatic Dynamics

Your observation of divisions between tongue-talking and non-tongue-talking groups reflects broader challenges in Christian unity. Paul’s writings in 1 Corinthians 12-14 emphasize that spiritual gifts should build up the body of Christ, not divide it. When ministries devolve into tribalism or competition, they stray from the relational integrity Isaiah 58 and the New Testament uphold.

6. Questions for Reflection and Application

To foster deeper understanding and practical application, consider:

How can ministries implement principles of relational respect from Isaiah 58 in their leadership and operations?
Should ministries adopt formal confidentiality agreements (e.g., NDAs) to uphold tru
How can leaders counteract the TMZ-style gossip culture while maintaining transparency and accountability?
What role does repentance and reconciliation play in restoring broken trust within ministries?

7. Additional Considerations

Toxic Leadership Dynamics: Isaiah 58 challenges leaders who exploit others under the guise of religiosity. Modern ministries must examine whether their practices align with Christ-like humility and care.
Covenantal Trust vs. Legal Contracts: In the absence of NDAs, Christian ministries rely on relational and spiritual covenants. Breaking these damages credibility and witness.
Spectacle vs. Substance: Isaiah 58 warns against outward displays of spirituality without inward transformation. Ministries should prioritize substance over spectacle to reflect God’s character.

Relational Failings in Scripture: Indifference, Unkindness, and Bias

Throughout the Bible, God repeatedly addresses the relational failures of His people, calling them to justice, compassion, and humility. These passages highlight the importance of prioritizing kindness and fairness in all relationships, whether personal, communal, or ministerial.

Isaiah’s Warnings Against Injustice and Bias

Isaiah often confronts the selfishness and bias of God’s people, particularly their mistreatment of the vulnerable:

Isaiah 1:16-17:
God commands His people to “seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow’s cause.” This rebuke emphasizes how relational failures, such as neglecting the needs of others, corrupt worship and displease God.
Isaiah 10:1-2:
The prophet denounces leaders who “decree iniquitous decrees” and “turn aside the needy from justice.” These actions reflect systemic unkindness and exploitation of the vulnerable.
Isaiah 58:
As addressed earlier, this chapter critiques fasting without relational integrity, underscoring that true worship involves caring for the oppressed, sharing with the needy, and treating others with dignity and respect.

Other Old Testament Examples

The Old Testament repeatedly highlights how indifference and unkindness grieve God, calling His people to a higher relational standard.

Jeremiah 5:28-29:
Jeremiah condemns those who have “grown fat and sleek” by prospering at the expense of the poor and failing to defend “the rights of the needy.” This reflects a relational failing rooted in selfishness and greed.
Micah 6:8:
The prophet reminds God’s people that true faith involves “acting justly, loving mercy, and walking humbly with your God.” This verse encapsulates relational expectations in both personal and communal contexts.
Ezekiel 22:29-30:
God accuses His people of oppressing the poor and robbing the stranger, further illustrating their lack of relational kindness and care. He laments that no one stands in the gap for justice.

New Testament Rebukes of Relational Failings

The teachings of Jesus and the apostles continue this theme, addressing selfishness, bias, and relational failures within the early church and society.

Matthew 23:23:
Jesus rebukes the Pharisees for neglecting “the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and faithfulness.” Their focus on external piety over relational integrity reflects a core failing.
Luke 10:25-37 (The Good Samaritan):
Jesus tells this parable to illustrate how relational indifference and bias, as seen in the priest and Levite who pass by the injured man, are incompatible with God’s command to “love your neighbor as yourself.”
James 2:1-9:
James warns against showing favoritism, particularly toward the rich, as this reveals a relational bias contrary to the kingdom ethic of loving all equally.
1 John 3:17-18:
John challenges believers: “If anyone has the world’s goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God’s love abide in him?” This stark question underscores the relational expectation to act with compassion and generosity.

Relational Lessons for Today’s Ministries

These biblical examples offer essential lessons for modern ministries and leaders:

Justice and Kindness Are Inseparable: Ministries must prioritize fairness, mercy, and inclusion in all interactions, reflecting God’s heart for the vulnerable.
Avoiding Bias and Favoritism: Relational integrity requires treating all people—staff, congregants, and outsiders—with respect and equality, avoiding favoritism or exclusion based on wealth, status, or background.
Compassion Over Indifference: As Isaiah 58 and the Good Samaritan illustrate, ministries must reject self-preservation and comfort when others are in need, choosing instead to engage with humility and care.
Relational Integrity Reflects True Worship: Without justice and mercy in relationships, even the most outwardly spiritual actions are hollow and displeasing to God.

A Call to Action

As we evaluate our ministries and personal lives, let us remember these biblical warnings and strive to align our relationships with God’s standards of love, justice, and humility. Whether addressing bias, selfishness, or indifference, Scripture calls us to be active agents of relational restoration, reflecting the character of Christ in all we do.