BIBLE COMMAND..LET YOUR WOMEN REMAIN SILENT + BIG MANY COMMENTS


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NOTE this was first posted Nob 13, 2019 as a comment on ChristianPost.com BUT then I have surely added to it..but before placing it DFW LEADER, first posted it this AM Nov 14 2019 on www.taveaucreativeconsulting.com..where even right NOW it is growing CONSIDERABLY

 

LET YOUR WOMEN STAY SILENT..PLUS…as in Extra Lengthy

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AT THIS START…One may view what is next… as a START…akin to circling the airport …NEXT PARTS…may be regarded as “we now approach the proverbial runway.”….then WAY DOWN….as we continue to unfold…we not just approach.. BUT actually fully land.

“Husbands, dwell with your wives, according to knowledge.“(I Peter 3:7) TCL MODERN DAY Expound.. 1. For your loving WOMEN do not come with an instruction manual..Thus YOU will want to/need to grow up, maturely LEARN.. Father God fixed it so that YOU must always GROW and KEEP (CONTINUALLY) INVESTED…AND this means..that AFTER YOU WIN HER,GOT HER..JUST DON’T PRESUME THAT NOW YOU NEVER HAVE TO DO ANY MORE WORK… TO GROW..NO ..IT’S LIFE LONG CONTINUAL” Taveau Creative Leadership Management**

 

**PLUS Senior Pastors, Ministers, Leader Lay, Offices who are MALE ought LEARN, GROW and MATURE in how to RESPECT, RELATE TO ALL WORK, FELLOWSHIPPING, STAFF, (PS HOME) FEMALES “Leader Dwell With the CoLaboring Humans, which HAPPEN to be FEMALES…According to (non biased, non-WELP )real Knowledge!

ALSO…NEED TO ASSESS….AS YOU REALLY WANT TO GUARANTEE YOUR OWN BLESSING..”honor the Father AND the Mothers…” So that YOUR days will be LONG on the earth AND it will go WELL with YOU.” (Includes natural, spiritual famous, not famous dads and all types, sizes ,styles,wise ages, colors, and married, non married MOMS)….

HENCE THE APOSTOLIC SHE’S SERIOUS SEERISH (mega long) SELAH…Plus Apostolic Sigh +Might be a forewarning  Sign.

“I simply walked into the prophetic meeting and sat there,reserved….however, attired in God formed mostly middle of age, Western European Deep Ancestry Real Woman Earthsuit…not one mite petite..YET Sent to be THERE by the abiding Holy Spirit….and with no DARK SINISTER, or SECRET, HIDDEN, PERSONAL agenda…simply in an attempt to obey the Hebrews 10:25, but also desiring to hear from the Lord for usually MOST EVERY SINGLE VISIT, the Alone Appearing Servant leader SHE was personally immersed in many LONG ENDURING Pauline dangerous long lasting hard suffering (but maturing, adventuring) unbelievable EXTREME TIMES..”

 

ALSO this abiding fully Human Real Non Distracting Person from BIRTH to NOW.zero EXCEPTIONS..was, is FULLY ALWAYS submitted to/observing ALL set in place leader authority boundaries!

ALSO in the Apostolic Ministry House continuing sole demeanor of ALL respecting, in James 3:17 Abiding Relationship Fear of the e Lord, calm, quiet Fruit” never new could be JUMPED and BERATED in public, have my good name smeared, SIMPLY for “perceived afar off as NOT being UNDER SUBMISSION to their super busy, acquiring, legalistic no fun authority”..that which SPARKED the UP Front Noble Berean..for the simple sake of PROTECTING God’s attending persons PLUS HIS HONORABLE HOLY SAFE NAME!!

The Prophetic USA God Commissioned Missionary MOTTO….be it for area peer, newbie visitor, and/or Hebrews 10:25 (unsuspecting) fellowship attempting to be a return, regular attender…..

“EVEN WHEN, IF GOD “SENDS YOU” IT DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL BE PURELY, ACCURATELY “PERCEIVED” MUCH LESS “FULLY RESPECTED”..OR EVEN LEADER “RECEIVED.”

THEN IT DAWNED UPON ME… (RECURRING PROPHETIC EAST COAST late 1990’s) “GOD HAS HIS PROPHET SEERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PULPIT STAGE..IT’S HIS SYSTEM OF CHECKS AND BALANCES” T Creative Mature Leadership

SUMMARILY…..

God’s rules to ME regarding This Such…..MINISTRY QUOTE…”If, WHEN YOU encounter something untoward…that does NOT reflect my Christ…IF it’s 1-2 times..ignore it….. BUT if I reveal it to YOU 3 or more times..then I want YOU to Noble Berean it and TEACH ON IT.” So that is WHY, HOW all of this happened.

 

Hence ASSESS the ministry leader pure motived Fellowship Attendance AFFECTING, not just DFW …but Popular Worship, mostly TV affected, Born Again Culture USA following (Aged 24 commissioned by God to study /surf His “Bible believing/born again” Christian ministry leader cultures, all races, and to then learn their ministry doctrines, their red flag buzz hot topics, and their styles, music..) then God’s Ezekiel Chapter 1, “Wheel within a Wheel” (heavenly GPS?) Holy Spirit personally directed, inner guided 24/7/365 from that day until THIS.

COMMANDED …LET YOUR WOMEN STAY SILENT..PLUS…

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Before the MAIN NOBLE BEREAN-ESQUE TYPE TEACHING..

1) I GIVE MY OWN PERSONAL BIO….

2) INTENTIONALLY STUMBLE INTO WELP EFFECTS IN FELLOWSHIP TEACHING, TRAINING, REQUIRED RULES..

3) Then the mainly BIBLE Verse based… MAIN DISCUSSION…

Hence… settle back, put on cup of hot tea or snuggle into that cozy chair in your office,den or local barista (generally E.O.R.R. …all fully respecting) fellowship and nurse a fresh piping Favorite hot brew.
Dr T. D’Arcy


SPIRITUAL TYPE OF TYPICAL DUH

Q. WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO ATTEND A FELLOWSHIP WHERE THEY ARE BIASED AGAINST, LOOKED DOWN ON,APOSTLE WITHSTOOD…ALSO DIMLY REGARDED “ONLY” A SECOND RATE HUMAN PERSON…ALONG WITH THAT “ONLY” A LESS THAN CHRIST FOLLOWER,” AND/OR DEVALUED AS ONE WHOM(THE SLY CALLOUS GOVERNING ELDER RATIONALIZE) …HAS GOD PERMISSION” TO BE “USED”?

Taveau Creative Leadership Top Overseer Management

2005-2018: Deep South regional recurring discovery** ..

**However, NO white evangelical or any African heritage; Also NO Buddhist, Hindu, Pagan,Non God Believer, NO LGBT, Muslim OR neither any non white Christian ever deeply disrespected..withstood, major stereotyped…mega chauvinism, mysogynist minister, spooky (paranoid suspicious, which ATTRACTS via negative perceiver FAITH) aka “Enthroning Jezebels” (too spooky.. off doctrine’) accusing mighty many…as “witches” sin spy far off accused.. Plus also New Visitor, Newly Relocated …purposely avoided.

….However,lest any non white race be smug and even proud… (TWO) African American female ministry close associates shares with me(meaning VERY recently and quite a deep south while back)… that while Caucasian ministers are usually VERY polite to HER..her own race is not always so very respectful and HEALTHY. But other than that, I personally find them NEARLY EVERY SINGLE MINISTRY, LIFE TIME… VERY, VERY RESPECTFUL!

Quite Possibly,meaning by African Heritage deep ancestry human persons… I get “perceptively ASSESSED ministry, nonLevitical Person most each and every person ACCURATELY because of Slavery, culture ,they are FEARLESS and also MANY of the “born again” leaders, lay each have God’s Holy Spirit of (assessed) POWER AND MIGHT.” which achieving, WE CENTRIC acquired legalism, strongly appears to diminish, dull way down for it replaces ACT 2 Supernatural POWER , toys with emasculating, and draws heavily on Human People Pleasing, as well as “subservient bowing and scraping to RELIGIOUS required RULED, DUTIES” PLUS seems to fear any other atypical perceived person who may be deemed MUCH STRONGER physically, spiritually, emotionally. NOT 100 of ALL WELPS but a high per capita in MANY ministry legalistic true, untrue quarters… YET ..just voicing OPINION based on ISAIAH 11:2-3 Messiah filled with God’s 7 fully WHOLLY HOLY nonreligious real SPIRITS)

The latter I would encourage the usually Red State (?) WE CENTRIC WELP by saying “LET THE WEAK SAY “I AM STRONG” IN THE LORD!” and “LET NOT YOUR OWN GOOD BE EVIL SPOKEN OF.”

 

PS This servant leader, NOT A WELP has life long earned a veritable have a PHD in assessing WELP. (prophetically the Alexander Coppersmith of this life long pioneering senior ministry) PLUS..See top homepage www.onlinefellowship.us ODE TO WELP “Call me Superspiritual Frank Sinatra Parody

Thus, we’ll leave it up the the pure hearted Unique Individual to ASSESS on a one by one, ministry by ministry, fellowship by fellowship INDIVIDUAL basis.

NOTE..AM CONTINUALLY trying big hard not to people please NOR to accuse, BUT be Faithful are the (leader) wounds of a (possible) friend.” Sincerely Dr TD

Live and learn. “Far off ONLY Perceive and Discern”…It’s UNSUBMITTED to “Relationship Real Respect” and breeds 2Timothy 3:1-5 FF (Friendly Fire) From Such Turn Away Deep South Paranoid Frenzied Fellowships. TCL APOSTOLIC MANAGEMENT

PERCEIVE AND DISCERN USE BIG CAUTION as if this is.minus ALL one to one RELATIONSHIP (GAL 6:1, Matthew 18:15-17) it then is a hotbed for RUMORS, UNSAFE ACCUSATION, BIG GOSSIP…for that DISREPECTFUL PHARISEEISM..fully breeds sinister accusation, sin spying, abased undue predatory FEAR and I repeatedly ASSESS that this makes JESUS CHRIST”S GOOD wholesome, SANE, SAFE, NON GENDER BIASED, and NOT ONE BIT SELF RIGHTEOUS, winsome Holy Name, plus Hebrews 10:15 “Fellowshipping” appear perverse, dark, sinister, ACCUSING which to me is DISEASED, MOST UNSAFE, EVEN PERVERSE AND/OR DEEPLY DEMONIC.

T CREATIVE “COMPLETE OPPOSITE OF A LEGALISTIC PHARISEE” LEADERSHIP

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Following more than 25 years deep Noble Berean USA charismatic leader true, many untrue doctrine Immersion..I want to sum up by declaring that….

OLD TESTAMENT CRITICAL WESTERN EUROPEAN LEVITICAL PATRIARCH …Deep South prophetic charismatic Shepherding IS the Queen Jezebel Spirit that they always warn YOU about..and /or …sinister Peer Sr Office Minister ACCUSE YOU of BEING….”**Taveau Creative Leadership Over Perceiver Seer non legalistic, non WELP HATING.. MANAGEMENT

**HERE’S THE HOW FOR THE ASSESSMENT FOR ACCUSER FRIENDLY FIRE FELLOWSHIP WELP

The leader teachings apply a In Well Intentioned, even Loving House, undue pressure, religious required rules and encourages top pastor, elder, office, apostle, prophet major compliance, dependency and breeds legalistic ACCUSATION and self righteous Far Off Sin Spying, unjust Phariseeism (and demands “SUBMISSION” to be UNDER it’s own WE CENTRIC leader doctrines..will not SUBMIT to Galatians 6:1 nor upfront Matthew 18:15-17, Book of Ephesians 4, Eph 5:21, James 3:17)

Seen it, been in/around it… for nearly 35 years on East Coast and deep south.

NON SELF RIGHTEOUS SUBMITTED ASSESSING, MAYBE FORTHRIGHT…SELAH

“I was a pure Christian before “prophetic charismatic authority” was invented.” TCL Management

 

YOURS TRULY was Born, Raised Liberated..as Southern Baptists are not into subservient controlling WELP (OT Western European Levitical Patriarch = Perceiver Overseer Shepherding) so it was not until far LATER that Scholar Taveau (JOHNSON) D’Arcy ever understood HOW OVER VERY MANY “RELIGIOUS” perceptive Born Again Charismatic willing Christians are “IMPRISONED” ..Hence her passion to liberate first God’s MEN and then allow them to fully completely FREE the chosen leader WOMEN. (Plus includes Ephesians 5:21 in ALL leader types of men and all kinds of women)

 

MINISTRY, GOOD PARENT ASIDE ….

“When one raises their son or daughter RESPECTED, SAFE and NOT under any LEGALISM, ACCUSER, RACISM, with a

RESPECT for ALL TYPES, KINDS, STYLES, RACES, AGES, NATIONALITIES OF GOD MADE HUMAN REAL PEOPLE… it

then later on assists that CHILD to PERCEIVE and DISCERN IF doctrines or persons, elders, lay are “OFF” …and/or

“demeaning, devaluing, biased, accusing, and/or indeed, deeply suspicious..meaning fully DISRESPECTFUL.” 2 Timothy 3:1-5 “..such avoid..”

 

So this dear leader daughter HONORS both of her God fearing Parents as well as the Extended FAMILY, manly real HUSBANDS and (nontroublesome) REAL LEADER GODLY WOMEN.

TO SHARE ABOUT WOMEN IN THIS, PLEASE READ MY AMAZING DEEP SOUTH PERSPECTIVE…

THIS TALL “SHE” WAS BORN LIBERATED… AUTO BIO…(Never going to be taken HOSTAGE by errant overly controlling mysogynist leader spiritual doctrines)

To share on this “Women remaining silent” BIG TRADITIONAL (usually hot)ministry TOPIC is indeed quite ironical.

For this deep south born and raised (non shepherded ) chosen HER was raised by a calm, tall, gentlemanly Bible Scholar, Seminary graduate, apostolic Southern Baptist emotional mature, joyful and continually happy ….and along with his capable…multigifted, yet continually hesitant to stand anywhere out in front, his equally servant leader happy First and Only Loving Wife, (my tending toward autocratic mother), whom herself descended from a very long line of gifted, capable, ageless, timeless, always keeping Current…and surely ALL Noble Berean plus deeply intuitive Bible scholar NON CONTROLLING, NONDOMINATING, ALL (complete opposite of a PHARISEE) Leader MYOB which equal’s ..NON GOSSIPS OR TALEBEARERS…supremely Godly Contented and playful, always God and Family First focused..yet natural,way down to earth…with one practical ministry leader foot, always firmly on God’s terra firma..which by light of hindsight, with regards to “apostolic ministry ” today ..may even be regarded as a bit “due normal”….

And the Senior Pastor “Baptists” ( who were Christians FIRST, God sent denominational SECOND..and PRONE to simply Be LED by the SPIRIT .) …first born beloved dear daughter and her 7/1/2 years younger kid SISTER, were by both parents as RESPECTED, DEEPLY CHERISHED and without even understanding …were also raised calmly but LIBERATED..as in “freely” Not BACK UNDER the Old Testament Letter of the Levitical Law..And neither were we raised PRUDISH, RACIST, NATIONALIST, PARTISAN IN POLITICS or amidst PERSONA AND BIG EGO Ministry…and never ONCE recall “MAN, LEADER WOMAN SUSPICIOUS SIN SPYING.”..In fact, it was quite the opposite!

SO, as I recall, when the WOMEN’S LIB began to come forward..(way LONG AGO) this already REALLY “ALL MEN” RESPECTED (at that PRIOR TO ALL charismatic self righteous point in time) and LIBERATED had no reason to even consider that a valid need.

MAIN BIBLE VERSES SUBMITTED SELAH PART

COMMANDED …LET YOUR

WOMEN STAY SILENT..PLUS…

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Written as a Christian Post Comment.Nov 13, 2019 AM SO WEARY of the OLD TRADITIONAL ROUND AND ROUNDS…

 

“Philip, the evangelist, who was one of the seven…had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy. “Acts 21:7-9

Let YOUR women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their HUSBANDS at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. “I Corinthians 14:34-15

I submit that Everyone may have their OWN views according to Loving Ephesians 4 COMMON DOCTRINES…which means nothing in NT or Back Under the OT Levitical Law “accusative legalistically” and fruits of abiding, enduring James 3:17.

THUS I would say the elder have his say.

Let the man, and any leader woman have his/hers….thus all of the ones who see past the OT legalism can hear from the Living Lord.

AGREE..Yes, Paul commanded not to let (YOUR!) women speak in the church (YET the word YOUR is not ever factored in…

YES TRUE the First Church females were most all uneducated plus rambling former Gentiles (never had been around the Hebrew dignifies, self governing etc Law) SO..if Apostle Paul commanded the husbands, fathers, owners, uncles, etc of these new Out of Control “little” perceived Women, who were new First converts..

 

….then Paul apparently assigned each woman’s Patriarchal Family member to deal with training outside the First Church.

So “THEIR OWN WOMEN” were most likely wives,mothers, relatives, slaves, children and therefore regarded as being UNDER their authority )..However, it seems that not ALL women fit in that first church ‘submission” category..

Yet as a NOBLE BEREAN...I would office submit OT Huldah,National Office Prophet Deborah was married to Lapidoth .. yet she was the well known of the pair

However, as the OT Law gets in the ministry way..let me offer 2 prime little known First Church vocal female seeming examples….

YET need to assess and avoid ‘accusing. NOTE … 2 NT examples..

1) COMMANDED, INSTRUCTION….to Let the “women who prophesy” in church cover their heads ( seems at least SOME females WERE allowed to have a ministry voice!)

2) Rev 2:18-29 church of Thyatira. Of course ,it’s the Notorious Jezebel female “stereotype all leader women” passage. …Which generally raises the OT Legalistic Hackles. However, I submit, we now can bypass that passed down clearly accuser fear mongering, historic grave Levitical Patriarchal (usually deep south )stereotype.

NOBLE BEREAN..using very close examination. NOTE The open rebuke it not to the(sin laden, fornication training) “false woman teacher”who was named Minister Jezebel….but ironically, was addressed to what appears to be the weak wuss cowardly MAN OVERSEER SR TOP LEADER …

 

Who upon assessing, seems to have a big bad case of “fear of (hu)man”..in this case a fierce LEADER Human WOMAN.. And he needs to Man Up and go over to upfront God’s Tough Love ( Gal 6:1, Matt 18:15-17) upfront confront…and set her down from her ministry teaching post.

BUT… in all of that…the missing GIANT Elephant in the world wide theology ROOM is the fact …while indeed, this Professor Jezebel WAS some sort of “troublesome witchy leader sinister woman”…

 

….that it ALSO (so ironically) reveals the apparent FACT that SOME leader women WERE given teaching posts, and ALLOWED to “speak” even to ongoing TEACH, PROPHESY among the Men..back in the First Fearless Church.

REV 2:18-29…however in the case of Poor Me Pity First Church Thyatira Apostle, he had clearly misjudged the infamous HER’S Character and had evidently picked the WRONG leader woman for the job!

 

SO…For the sake of the END TIMES, many Lost.. let’s let the unloving, witch hunting,INFIGHTING, PUBLIC FIGHTING…It’s now the proper time to DEFRAG what is OT Levitical Letter of the Hard Core “need to be proven RIGHT”…

….. ” and then regard each one of Apostle Paul’s commands through the guidance of EPHESIANS 4 … “Church Common Doctrine”….which will then eliminate all the pompous angry finger pointing…(again …which is such a very poor witness to the lost and young,)

FOR WE MUST KNOW HOW TO DISAGREE MINUS THE ACCUSER NAME CALLING.


I have put together a few Helpful Tips:

(PS Have a lot more on this Anti Accuser Law /hot subject but would make it too long)

Thus I advice: Let’s each study let the Scriptures speak..YET balanced with GUIDELINES to PRESERVE ALL RELATIONSHIPS and produce the healthy Fruit that James says authentically represents “God’s wisdom from above”

GUIDELINE OF James 3:17“wisdom that comes from above) must be “pure, peaceable, easily entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy”

MEANING that comments, advice,teaching is pledges to abide and remain in emotionally healthy, non legalistic, NOT ACCUSING (Rev 11:7-11)

EACH HUMAN BEING...Bible investigates, seeks to hear back from the non critical LORD in private prayer, as in “working out their own salvation” as before the Lord

BIG END POINT “each Person (leader, lay, famous, not well known) EVERY PERSON has a private right to hear God… BUT THEN to make the ultimate decision about what THEY WILL BELIEF.

ALSO with the reminder that EACH and EVERY HUMAN must one day stand ALONE before God’s Throne to answer for each one of those big, small ministry choices.

AND it is not MY business or YOURS or anyone ELSE’S ongoing JOB to play GOD /HOLY SPIRIT or be their Autocratic FATHER or Dominating MOTHER.
So I rest in the peace of the Lord in James 3:17 and submit this all to YE.
Abiding Ministry Blessings!

MUCH MORE IMPORTANT..EACH ONE NEEDS TO BE F.D.R..”FINAL DAY READY”…..BUT ALSO TO MAKE REAL SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDER THE SON IS, TOO!

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