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(Let us each begin to REDIG those kinds of (non PC, genuine LOVE WALK) apostolic big Grass Roots wells)
NOTE This was first posted www.onlinefellowship.us Sept 8, 2019
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MY PREQUEL(Regards Deep Southwest Ministry)…PRIOR TO THE ABOVE HOT TOPIC
WAS NOT A “NOVICE” “JUNIOR WANNABE MINISTER” BUT AN EXPERIENCED MATURE SENIOR MULTI OFFICE..just one who,like missionary (Sent Galatians 1:1-2) servant Apostle Paul, was a life altering shipwreck major suvivor. Maybe akin to Hurricane Katrina…but definitely a SURVIVOR.
PROPHETIC Test Case? “Newly Single “The Alone white Female, tall,middle aged,”The Senora Citizen” not one wit world wide famous, area typical blonde, not a Barbie Style Stick Thin Minister (plus avoids wearing any pastel Pink!) prophetic intercessor resembling) yet in area hindsight, was SENT as a I Samuel Hannah on the Chief Office High Priests, Front Temple Steps” ( ?)
(Charitably noting .. that this was repeated DFW discovery 2005 – MARCH 2020 COVID, which can be interpreted, WELL SURELY they each by now, have deeply self inspected, plus have grown up and made First Love Relationship, long lasting true changes…?)
They Call it “Mellow Shallow” (Representing Plastic Jesus?)*
* as a tiny child, I used to see tiny plastic statues of Jesus on people’s car dash boards. Yet prior to relocating down to the deep southwest ,area Christian-ese metroplex, I had figured that they had long since gone out of style!
BY PRODUCT OF “THE DRIVE BY, HAIL FELLOW WELL MET” LEGALISTIC MANY SYSTEMS(some even tending toward ALGORITHMIC**…) ( **I suppose to keep the supply coming on a Needs Met regular basis)
THE AREA DISCOVERY: a lacking in accurate PERCEPTION, DISCERNMENT deep skill of other human real person skill,dull of perception” Some caustic I Samuel Eli High Priesthood area dismissive and very compassion fatigued,into Self Preserving, similar to Revelation 2 Ephesians Lost First Love hardworking,super achiever, Poor ME Stand Offish, Witch Watching accusers of lone females..Lampstand
PSALM 115 PERHAPS BIBLICALLY EXPLAINS THIS ARE WIDE AMAZING DEEP SOUTH PHENOMENON, which appeared to be Western European ministry ancestry, and also AREA PATRICIAN, PATRIARCHAL WE ARE THE WORLD COLONIAL (my coined term “WE CENTRIC”)
4 Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men’s hands.
5 They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not:
6 They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not:
7 They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat.
8 They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them.
MY EXPERIENCE WITH A LOST FIRST LOVE, FANTASY, WELL OFF, ALL THE WISE, WIDE REGAL AREA OF PROFESSING “BORN AGAIN” CHRISTIAN ….MINISTRY
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” We are rich…
…in wells of knowledge, “OUR OWN” required conformity to, plus good teachings coming down from” OUR” World Wide Favorite Famous Prophet, Pastor, Teacher” …”OUR” non diverse version of ministry, each of “OUR, YOUR” goodly ample possessions,”OUR “OWN in bred close family,ministry network and Me,My, “OUR” business achievement….Each of “OUR” Blessed Favor, each of “OUR”Own” area set in age old traditions,regal, legalistic ministry chief Systems+ Ministry Winning Ways…and WE, ME, I,all knowing US…
…and have need of nothing”
AND PREQUEL SUBTITLE MIGHT BE: “LORD, I CAME TO YOUR
PROPHETIC AREA, BUT WHAT’S IN THEIR REGIONAL DOCTRINAL
BATHWATERS?”
WHICH EVENTUALLY GAVE RISE TO EORR “EQUAL OPPORTUNITY “REAL RESPECT” FOR THE OFFICE OF EVERY HUMAN MADE IN GOD’S IMAGE (PSALM 139) **
**Plus www.relationshiptheology.org A.R.T. Abiding Relationship Theology and giving doctrinal attention to ALL MINISTRY RELATIONSHIPS (see TEN BIBLE RELATIONSHIPS top , www.dfwleader.org)
ABIDING IN JAMES 3:17 faithfilled RELATIONSHIP FRUIT…
“The wisdom the comes from above is pure, peaceable,easily entreated,full of mercy and good fruit, without partiality and without hypocrisy.”
THEREFORE, DURING THE 2005-5/2020 DEEEEEEPP WIDE RELIGIOUS AREA SOUTHWEST (YET VERY APOSTOLIC DEPORTATION)..THE SHE HAS (ACTUALLY!) THRIVED, YET ALSO HAD ONGOING REVEALED: (for what does not KILL you, not only makes YOU stronger, but also gives YOU many LEVELS and LAYERS of GREAT Bible teaching FODDER!
And thought I really did give it a TRY (area wide) STILL, I have never been a Christian achievement performer, NOR did I enjoy being pressured to conform to any GOOD OLE HUMAN PERSONS Clannish CLUB…and FYI…. I did not feel ANY genuine Ministry Family Fit,as I am, I supposed, one of the LOST MINISTRY TRIBE, who really prefer a set apart,Genuine First Love Lifestyle… AREA RELATIONSHIPS, COMMUNITY…plus am ANNOYED and TROUBLED by “white on white leader STEREOTYPING, BEING repeatedly TYPECAST by OFF HOLY SPIRIT ALL WHITE MINISTRY DOCTRINES….Thus I did not end up with any deep, sincere, close area (spirit filled)Ministry RELATIONSHIPS.however I deeply GREW in my experience, FUN and even FUNNY but ministry greatly ongoing LIBERATING, with CONFIDENCE GREATLY BUILDING…abiding RELATIONSHIP with the LOVING GREATLY GRACIOUS, ALWAYS OTHER CENTRIC…LORD.
However, I was informed by the Lord, to not take any of what I unbelievably,even rudely,repeatedly encountered PERSONALLY..but rather, on behalf of what apparently MANY OTHERS repeatedly enounter when THEY newbie attempt to VISIT, affiliate and/or become a card carrying fellowship “member” (of which I am NOT by God’s sane, safe, saving grace)..AND THE BOTTOM LINE: I am instructed to perceiver SEE and assess and DISCERN all of this as a APOSTLE and PROPHET.
SO rather than taking it PERSONALLY, I am told by my God to take itPROPHETICALLY and then to instruct, reprove, reform, correct and equipping area TRAIN on,should I encounter ANY ministry unpleasant doctrinal fruit 3 or more times..Hence I now apostolic senior office train on the FOLLOWING
HENCE..JAMES 3:17 RELATIONSHIP PRESERVING WHOLE FRUIT
SPEAKS
IF a couple, married spouses, friends, business and ministry, fellowship CHRISTIAN abide in the pure RELATIONSHIP FRUIT which Hero Role Models (enduring,even under pressure) JAMES 3:17…then it will stop divorce, family, friend and ministry church fellowship FEUDS and DEADLY SPLITS. It will curb gossip, envy, accusation and ABUSE.
SHORT BACKSTORY BEHIND WHAT FOLLOWS BENEATH
IN THIS VINTAGE website below Taveau alludes to her nearly 18 years of accelerating,well behind the scenes, private isolation with emotional deep abuse. Which, after it stopped left with 4-5-12 years to be fully healed, and for much of the DFW Time, it was similar to the Psalm 143 below. Assessing this would have been NICE to be able to DFW Locate “family feel “Caring Interested Pure Hearted Community” within the many ministry Christians. But it was too much elite legalistic cliquish big and many small very imperceptive, but hurried and fast passed, many time conscious Mega, Micro Indifferent , but majorly interested in Achievement, praising, growing,TV media and taking in ministry collections. And that is what opened Taveau’s prophetic Eyes to the big numbers of usually charismatic, “Compassion Fatigued Eli Temple High Priesthood and their dutifly devout Christian follower n’er do very well, clubbish cliquish busy fans.
To get anyone to minister to a Christian grieving l recently divorced relocated, yet forced into a new unexpected, very unwanted FORCED divorce…it was much more like “the new widow.”..and the solemn , in solitary, She found that 1) they wouldn’t speak to you unless YOU officially joined their giant church 2) if you wanted ministry,other than down at the prayer alter,prior or after the quickened service, you could get a name but it would be sliding scale fee. (mine was (2008) $55.00 hour(thru the CHURCH!)..but it was a big amount due to the grief and loss) 3) presumably, (as when I was first Sent DFW there, I was invited repeatedly to the area sr pastor’s gatherings under the auspices of a Well Known TV Minister. However, I was NOT one of the minister long time friends, ministry group close knit, nondiverse group and wondered if I had been well known, famous, would ANYONE Of them have befriended the newly Single Female, who was also a 5 fold office servant She.
AND this same assessment was several more times repeated as I attempted to find a recognized ministry established fellowship group, who understood Holy Sprit, the Word…but it was never to manifest. Yet, I learned, how NOT to be and how extremely important it is for senior ministers to be OTHER CENTRIC, not jaded, dull and weary akin to compassion fatigued Lost First Leader Love TEMPLE HIGH PRIEST ELI…
And for a sr pastors, pastor’s dutiful wife, elder, staff..to not be too cautious,cliquish, and SELF INOLVED..and perform out of rote, duty without ANY true “Jesus wept” “mourn with those who mourn” rather than local ministry Pop Psychology try to “formula fast fix them’ or assigned them to a Fix Fast 4 week classs so that many of YOU can be FREE to scurry on to YOUR next business engagement.
SO I LEARNED...a powerful area lot,, and vast region wide…it was not all good…I did sadly learn that seasoned Christian ministers must never loose their EMPATHY or RESPECT for ALL, and I can share from first hand REPEATED leader experience, a pure hearted No Guile Top Minister will NEVER demean , devalue or accuse, objectify ANY HUMAN PERSON by using traditional self serving TYPE CASTS or STEREOTYPES regarding GENDER, AGE, RACE, SIZE,APPEARANCE, DEMEANOR..as this is WHAT was being really DONE prior to March 16, 2020 COVIDSHUT DOWN.
And I now close the PREQUEL.
BIG CONCLUSION.
“It’s a terrible thing, to fall into the hands of a Living God” but it MAY akin to hell on earth to “fall into a supposedly born again Christian wide region ONLY to ever meet, clueless, many Uncontrite, Money Super Conscious, appearing as Self overly Involved and Fast Formual FIX ‘EM SUPER FAST “Refer OVER Trying to EMPATHIZE, OR RELATE” ..,when one is seeking Eph 1; 6 “Beloved Acceptance ” from a very informed, perceived as healthy,welcoming, True Community during a time of relocation, weeping, recovering from being abused, persecuted, like due to racism, and coming from another unsafe nation..yet area hard minded wide, discovers that it is NOT. (Spirit Filled Ministry).
And, the vast regional hurried campus Numbers of Nouveau Play Ministry Riche …”Born again Advertising “COME TO JESUS HOUSE, FOR HIS LOVE AND MINISTRY..” however, when it’s an emotionally IMMATURE, Fix Em Fast, and into assessed (pure hearted) FORMULA….which leaves every Chosen One (always )so eager to leave you to scurry on to their next Big Ministry Appointment. …IT’S A HORRIBLE THING,WHEN ONE IS IN LONGSUFFERING.. TO ENCOUNTER THE HAPPY CLAPPY PLAYTIME, DECIDEDLY SHALLOW…MOSTLY EMOTIONALLY IMMATURE, YET VERY BIG HIGH QUALITY, PSEUDO “LOVE WALK” PATRIARCHAL CHURCH. BUT THEN AD FORMULA AND HISTORY OF ONLY GETTING “BLESSED” WITH NO SERVANT LEADERSHIP, SUSPICION FOR THE NEWBIE, ANY ATYPICAL STRANGER, LEADER, ACCUSER GENDER BIAS…WITH MAYBE 15 % of CHRISTIAN LEADERSHIP have, are concerned about having A HOLY FEAR OF THE LIVING, ETERNAL LORD.”
AKA “THE FORMULA DRIVEN” CLUBBY NON DIVERSE CAUSTIC CHURCH”
http://www.soberministrythoughts.wordpress.com
RECURRING ABUSE PTSD PSALM 143
1Hear my prayer, O Lord, give ear to my supplications: in thy faithfulness answer me, and in thy righteousness.
2 And enter not into judgment with thy servant: for in thy sight shall no man living be justified.
3 For the enemy hath persecuted my soul; he hath smitten my life down to the ground; he hath made me to dwell in darkness, as those that have been long dead.
4 Therefore is my spirit overwhelmed within me; my heart within me is desolate”
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Please use all of the above as a reminder to the traditional, usually empathy free, compassion fatigued, even accuser very jaundiced overworked counseling, pastor, minster, mental health counselor NOT to view every one through jaded STEREOTYPES.
RECURRING EMOTIONAL, PHYSICAL ABUSE may be viewed as a classic symptom of “Christian sin”…yet it may also include big wide issues of ” environmentally learned relationship disrespect” “big unforgiveness deep baggage and assessed prior history build up” “a person, persons… with no self government, as in self control”…AND /OR it could emanate from “mental health” “passed way down environmental, family” “chemical” “environmental root” yet “psychiatric” deep issues, birth deep core, many complex issues.
ASIDE…And with some chief abusers being raised so badly that now when the feel extra life, money, mental, extreme big pressure, they just explode, not understanding how God can be There for him/her..to curb, to block to fully STOP. Hence we plan to teach, train, reassure..
And/or while RAGE, CRUELTY, VIOLENCE may at some times rooted in “demonic” and/or “illness”…learned or responsive, big pressure related behavior, the CHOICE to seek HELP from God, wise counsel, medical physician or any other is wide open and omitted, avoided due to Patriarchal “the little woman is at fault” and or naive, majorly clueless legal, church, and Deeply Entrenched Overly Large System ongoing authorities.
MAIN VIEW POINT: COUNSELING ONE TO ONE..MEANS ONE BY EACH AND EVERY GOD MADE UNIQUE ONE
Also, the above Hot Topic is to encourage EACH who gives counsel, has a ministry, to remain very open ended, no use of prevailing stereotypes and to perceive and truly hear each and every single real person as having a REAL REASON to be fully HEARD but with each one needing a UNIQUE case by case problem resolving, yet minus “FAST FIX” or “applied FORMULAS” solution seeking approach.
This writer passed through these exceeding demeaning, accusative and wearying, multi complex, even incurring doctrinal, unsafe waters after being raised in a very safe, happy Godly contented senior pastor’s humble ministry family. And she did not for a long time fully understand how GOD expected the alone Her to rise up to deal with it. Hence the “growth and maturing Learning Curve” ample experience.
It was such an unforeseen, and foreign, never prior to abuse,ever once encountered subject..but do to what went on in her,the abuser, the family and the local area leader mostly WELP vastly immature and religious small minded narrow views regarding such…along the long, hard exceedingly difficult overall process, the Lord was always THERE and showed her what to do and what to say and when to give it the best longest Christian SHOT but also when to FULLY FLEE (meaning after having to call the police twice )..
So T now offers many leader significant points to PASTORS, LEADERS, ELDERS, LAY, COUNSELORS in order to serve, help to preserve,with the expressed intent to FULLY AVOID to experience emotional violence, repeated demeaning abuse and the horrific, long stoney Silent Treatment.. which This White Outer Court Earthsuited,no longer married, She writes about experiencing all of this in the first parts of the website.
And by God’s grace, equipping Bible applied faith, Holy Spirit direction, many family and friends prayers as well understanding, worship, the presence and peace and supernatural long term, preserving internal power, brought her to the better leader understanding of how to address both parties but also pastors, ministers and counsel.
Peacefully written and submitted to the Body of Christ in Assessing Spiritual Selah.
BIG POINT…NO TWO PASTORS, MINISTERS, COUNSELORS, PARENTS, ABUSIVE, ABUSED MALES, FEMALES,LEGALLY WEDDED SPOUSES, FELLOWSHIP ATTENDERS, PERSONS OF A COLOR, SET AGE, APPEARING LOOK, ALL RESEMBLING BOTH, ONE OF THE PARTIES… ARE IDENTICAL.
While there may be similarities, God will hold each pastor, minister, counselor directly accountable for NOT being biased, back Under the Old (“the little woman brought it upon herself” as “She was not being submissive”) Age Old local religious OT Law, usually WELP (deep ancestor Western European deep in tradition, passed down huge stereotypes LP meaning OT Levitical Patriarchism priestly bias.)
Following 15-20 years of this, Taveau was left in the Psalm 143 PTSD from which she understands the Living Lord allowed her to undergo, to perhaps VERY MANY unknown OTHERS…and she will address this later on this week on a Real Life Is A.R.T. “Abiding Relationship Theology” audio podcast.
WONDERING “How can we have, sustain, ongoing ample RELATIONSHIPS minus employing God’s Holy Spirit “tempering” patience, peaceful totally SELF GOVERNING internal POWER to keep them in JAMES 3:17 Self Control?”
AM FREELY PRESENTLY MINISTRY ADVOCATING… NO MORE FRIENDLY FIRE CAUSTIC FELLOWSHIPS…. Real Reason…ACCUSATION in Fellowships must seek the Lord about how NOT to accuse the attenders, ministers and lay, who encounter repeated verbal, demeaning violence PRIOR to their attempting to Bible submit to Hebrews 10:25 …based upon the In House OT Levitical use of Pharisee accuser legalism, judgmental Letter of the Law
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WHY THIS NEW SPIRITUAL DOCTRINE LEADER FOCUS?
ABIDING JAMES 3:17 RELATIONSHIP THEOLOGY
HOW DID Jesus ACT, REACT.. in every single one of His ministry, personal, family life Abiding RELATIONSHIPS, locally, privately, with His dear mother Mary..when He roamed the earth in the Gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. Then, we BIBLE NOBLE BEREAN, at least ministry SCAN to understand, fine tune in order to simply ACT, REACT and employ Holy Spirit supernatural power and His eternal Help….. to do just like JESUS CHRIST did.
http://www.relationshiptheology.org
Hence the present now need to CHRISTIAN MINISTRY , LAY address ” Apostle Paul Galatians 5:222-3 Holy Spirit fruits of the Spirit “Love joy peace patience goodness meekness, SELF CONTROL”…AND ALSO per Unique Individual to ” not feel shame if one is prone to abuse, but seeking the Holy Spirit power TO REFRAIN” and also to train on abiding in JAMES 3;17 All Relationship Fruit (“any wisdom that represents God is first of all pure, peaceable, easily entreated, full of mercy, and good fruit (Gal 5:22-23 fruits of the Spirit),
MAIN TALKING LEADER POINT: There is no shame in a person being raised in an abusive environment, recurring deep abuse…as they could not help it…and it was not their FAULT.
YET IF the Believing One was allowed, by God’s goodness, great grace… to survive all that, then the one must take responsibility by going to GOD, WISE COUNSEL, THERAPY and /or MEDICINE when, if one finds that their own past, childhood ABUSE starts to rise, occur with their SPOUSE, CHILDREN, STEP CHILDREN and or OTHERS.
So let’s purposely avoid accusation of any admitting Emotional, Physical Abuser…Simply avoid SHAME and keeping it hidden in the CLOSET, Rather, it must be made simply, and peaceful, not shameful..pragmatic, matter of factly…with NO wise pastor, elder, counselor, therapist, CHRISTIAN LAY….family, parents…. as in meaningful NOBODY appearing SHOCKED, HORRIFIED at the confessing dear human persons abuse admissions.
TO ASSESS ONESELF RATHER THAN SELF ACCUSE, AND AVOID SELF FLAGELLATION
“There is NO sin or shame for being RAISED abused, raw…etc. YET if you have accepted Jesus Christ as YOUR Savior, then He would hold YOU responsible for NOT forgiving, seeking Help and even getting saving prayer, help, deliverance, ministry /other counsel, and/or needed medicine…in order to AVOID repeating that sort of untoward behavior.”
Holy Spirit SELF GOVERNMENT, with counsel, ministry deliverance, getting medicine, and whatever else it takes NATURALLY and or SPIRITUALLY…to STOP THIS in your own generation.
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