OUR LEADER STATE OF THE ONION…TOO MANY BORN AGAIN “CHRISTIANS” PRACTICING WITCHCRAFT??

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NOTE This was first posted www.dfwleader.org Oct 17, 2019

NEED TO DFW REGARD THIS AS THE

“PRESENTING THEMSELVES AS YE MUST BE

BORN AGAIN MINISTRY” ..MOSTLY THE GAINING

SPIRIT FILLED ….AS AN AREA STATE

OF THE ONION…FOR TOO MANY TROUBLING

LEADER LEVELS…ACCEPTED DEEP MINISTRY

LAYERS

More than a triple boatload of Sweet Baby Jesus

True Born Again Major Followers practice classic

ministry, elite staff, family, personal private, life

“witchcraft”…plus are practicing “idolators”…***

YET THIS IS ACTUALLY AN “ABIDING JAMES 3:17 RELATIONSHIP FULL OUT ISSUE” ..BECAUSE they actively refuse to be humbly accessible, relation preserving “EASILY INTREATED.” And also TRUSTWORTHY, FULLY ALL RESPECTFUL, MINISTRY DEEPLY VALUING PERSONS who are SENT directly TO THE MANY OF MINISTRY THEM. And also privately, even to Saved Leader Multicultural Lay

AND hence the EASILY INTREATED discussion below

 

“I’m putting my chips, on the middle of the table, I’m betting on God, I’m betting on God.” (Song smidgen recalled from hearing only once, while back on much more rural..yielded to God’s moving Holy Spirit, East Coast (NOTE: “Put not your confidence in a (hu)man, not even in princes (pastors, leaders,not even the MAJOR YOU) ONLY put your ULTIMATE confidence in the LORD. (Psalm 118:8-9)

 

ABIDING, ENDURING IN JAMES 3:17 ALL

RELATIONSHIP (WITH GOD’S GRANTED GRACE)

REAL LIFE THEOLOGY

DEFINITION OF “INTREATED” 1. to ask (a person) earnestly; beseech; implore; beg. 2. to ask earnestly for (something). The Free Dictionary

.***”For rebellion is as the sin of WITCHCRAFT

and STUBBORNESS is as INIQUITY and

IDOLATRY” I SAMUEL 15:23 “

INJUSTICE “Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.” SINS OF SODOM Ezekiel 16:48-50

“REAL PEOPLE ARE REAL PEOPLE. TRUE RESPECT IS TRUE RESPECT. REAL PEOPLE WILL PERCEIVER FULLY KNOW WHEN, IF THEY ARE NOT TRULY RESPECTED…AND THEN THEY FOREVER WILL CLEARLY RECALL….EXACTLY BY WHOM THEY WERE DISRESPECTED! Taveau Creative Leadership

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BENEATH…THE HERO ROLE MODEL…(even under big real undue Life pressure..yet while calling out to the Real Life Living Lord, for HIS ongoing grace and Holy Spirit strength, self control..help)

JAMES 3:17 “The wisdom that comes from above,

is first of all pure, peaceable,EASILY ENTREATED,

full of mercy and good fruit, without partiality and

without hypocrisy.”

(note: by examining James 3:17 ongoing Relationship True, non accuser fruit,

ANOTHER TIP…You can pretty accurately “discern” if the “big Christian”/Christian elder, office, business lay… AUTHENTICALLY, GENUINELY, UTMOST TRULY… “represents God’s Pure Kingdom Wisdom

AM NOW FINDING..

  • WHEN they avoid being confronted, beat around the bush rather than are willing to appear in PERSONS for a Matthew 18:15-17, humble Galatians 6:1 and negotiate, navigate the PROBLEM..then THEY are behaving, resembling, anti-hero role modeling ME Centric, Self CENTRIC, WE or US All Centric, potentially I Samuel (TO SELF) idolators. God only knows.

 

  • WHEN YOU try to get them to sit down with YOU to work out whatever their upset with YOU about, but they weep and complain to many many others …about YOU..but refuse to meet to work things OUT..for the sake of CHRIST, UNITY, PEACE, PUTTING IT ALL TO REST..then THEY are NOT EASILY INTREATED and may fall under the same as mentioned directly above.

 

  • IF SOMEONE makes a personal, leader, family, business, maybe social set appointment..but then they never ever show up..and do not call in advance…possibly GHOST…then the RELATIONSHIP FULL OUT DISRESPECT plus all James 3:17 , maybe I Samuel 15:23 ish …then comes into SELF not OTHER Centric display.

THIS IS ASSESSED AS OVERBEARING “OVERT”

  • (CLEARLY ARROGANT, HUMAN EGO)BIG BOSSING, OVER POWERING, OVER SHOUTING, bullying, withholding affection,giving the dehumanizing Silent Treatment…plus using your ministry ,office, personal persona and/or power, including Bible learning to WIN ,to wield CONTROL..is NOT servant leader /spouse, Christian family member “easily intreated” (Rather it’s more I Samuel 15:23!! FYI)..as it puts FAVORS ONE’S OWN SELF over any other and cares not a whit about the OTHERS views, emotions, life..all of those demean, devalue and objective another living God formed Human.

 

THIS IS ASSESSED AS CUNNING COVERT

NOTE: This fits I Samuel 15:23 per assessing the ministry, person’s character fruit

  • Use of Avoidant, even slippery, cunning,quick thinking deflecting fast talk (cunning accuser BLAME SHIFTING (made a blog due to the experience http://www.adventuresinblameshifting.wordpress.com...which might evenbe orchestrated, ministry ,human individual sly manipulation, using their position to thwart, to refuse to be held responsible and or to allow the leaders, ministers, family, lay to be up front righteously confronted…

 

  • BIGGEST USER Licentiousness (convenient use of slippery as in greasy grace) manipulation of Holy Bible scripture to have their own way ‘BUT YOUR NOT ACTING SWEET like Baby Jesus..for “I am the righteousness of God” (when they stole your stuff and they want to keep it) DFW Leader Life Well Learned Ministry Area Lesson 2005-2010.

 

  • AND ducking avoiding, hiding, only willing to text, email, send pouty self righteous, always self justifying lengthy letters.to remain in big personal human CONTROL in order to AVOID sitting down, accepting a phone all to be “easily intreated’ and authority /person work things out and negotiate, with the main UNITY object to PUT IT ALL TO REST.

ALL REASONS ARE ASSESSED AS

  • An”abject fear of losing control” and “of risking being told the Plain God’s Honest Truth which they don’t they can’t emotionally except or truly do NOT want to have do hear have to hear…as they prefer to remain in self closeted in deep anger with denial.

 

  • Assessed by me as being Emotionally Dishonest…but mainly with THEMSELVES..as in not REAL, GENUINE as a human real person, Thus they feel real pressure to come out on top, to keep the stole TV, Money…look the Hero Part, To HAVE THE LAST WORD…to be regarded as the WINNER in the overall family, leader, business, friend,and Christian Ministry Fellowship “relationship struggle” and “dispute”

MY PERSONAL TESTIMONIES (3 OF MANY FRUSTRATING MATURE MORE)..NOTE..so this is perhaps WHY I feel so strongly about RELATIONSHIP RESPECT, ABIDING JAMES 3;17 (SOCIALLY MATURE) AND (PERMISSIVE) AVOIDANCE OF SELECTIVE BIBLE SCRIPTURES

 

FIRST…God has told me to “be upfront, Gal 6:1/Matthew 15:15-17 “upfront lovingly, respectfully, maybe if needed, firmly and even to use God’s Tough (respecting) Real Love. I had recalled a period of my childhood, when my dear mother and her big sister, did not get along. As a elementary school child I remember that (during only that time)one would feel very hurt by the other.

 

But instead of upfront discussing, negotiating, boldly navigating to resolve whatever issue..NO ..that was not going to be the case ,RATHER my mother would complain to all my other relatives and weep on their tender, enabling shoulders…and yet never once RISE UP, HUMAN UP to either Galatians 6:1, Matthew 18:15 which tells each of us to “GET UP AND GO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT, AND ONE TO ONE PRIVATELY SHARE, DISCUSS and MOVE ON. Ephesians 4:1-3 but mainly JAMES 3:17 “BEING EASILY ENTREATED” was a definite part of this. (To God’s Holy Word?)

 

ASSESSING JAMES 3:17 FRUIT: SO this wasted precious time and many needless prolonging, making a enormous seeming Self Preserving Big Delaying Sob Sister (or Ministry) Mountain out of all of this. It’s like “needing to be regarded as “I WIN” which is NOT one bit being “easily intreated.”

 

SO I watched all of this, and if went back and forth, one getting hurt, the other not confronting, (fear of man? human self pleasing rather than God , another working to unify again with?) THUS I learned and I am supposing that is the WHY this apostolic ministry is so UPFRONT (trying to be mature, polite, objective, not one whit biased) CONFRONTING yet passionate and abiding, long suffering ENDURING in JAMES 3:17.

SO even as a small but ever attentive minister’s child..I inner vowed to NEVER chicken out and to be UP FRONT to get it all OVER WITH.

SECOND TRIED AND TRUE EXAMPLE

AMAZING FRIENDS, FAMILY…IF I am in the wrong, Fine ,just (JAMES 3:17 Maturely, Respectfully, Kindly, Gently) SIMPLY INFORM ME. I can handle it (if POLITE and MATURE and in BIBLE LEADER MINISTRY ORDER)

 

BECAUSE (after noting Mom and her Older Sister) I prefer to face to face work out any private, personal, ministry issue. But I repeatedly encounter, many afraid to either CONFRONT , HASH IT ALL OUT TO RESOLVE or RESPECT hearing from another who doesn’t quite believe YOUR WILLFUL WAY.
So I strongly attempt to live EASILY INTREATED, NOT A CLEVER DUCKING AVOIDING, ACCUSING WUSS. And that gets me by fine UNTIL, UNLESS YOU interact with Pet Grudge Clever Holders who often turn out to be NOT EASILY ENTREATED. In immature Relationship Fact..they apparently have DELETED any JAMES 3;17 Relationship True Respect out of their well studied version of their Own Word of God.

 

And THIS is my worst private life Precious Time Wasting Nightmare. People who are immature, self preserving and emotional Me Self Centric, but all very special and amazing, Clear family, friend Big Wusses


…DUE TO MUCH OF THIS…IS THE WHY I DON”T TRUST A LIVING HUMAN SOUL(PS NOT EVEN THIS OWN CHOOSEY SELF)..ONLY THE LORD” “Putting my ministry leadership chips on the middle of the table, I’m betting on my LIVING REAL GOD.” TCL Over Perceiver Seer Management

 

LONG SUFFERING EXPERIENCE

There was a personal extended family issue. I got accused but was HUMAN ENOUGH to face to face work through it, and willing to accept any responsibility (humble) and navigate, ever negotiate if needed, to work through to fully and finally big RESOLVE.

 

Yet the Big Sweet Baby Jesus lovers on the other end would not leader bend to be “easily intreated” to appear in “face to face” to work it out.

 

AND you must understand, that back during the day of my dear departed Mother and her sister, that the two were well noted by myself for NEVER willing to face to face speak. HOWEVER each would write enormous, huge lengthy(big precious TIME WASTING ) BIG (back then by hand) self justifying LETTERS (which if both were around today would surely be EMAILS or angst written TOO LONG TEXTS)..which cause some of the immature family/friends STILL DO THAT.

 

ALSO: I have “easily entreated” over much asked that I am first spoken with, or given a polite cell call to discuss any family bruhaha..which does happen to every one..even my own ministry special extended One True Christian Family. I have also repeatedly, taken the Lord’s energy and set Time to try to work things out…but with my own special asking that 1)PUH-LEASE…NOBODY pen me those extra long, woe is certain US, emails. And I do NOT like, or expect to be CORRECTED, CONFRONTED by super long ominous and frankly BIG COWARDLY “SELF CENTRIC” MAJOR LONG AND AMPLE TEXTS. 2) Yet while I have deeply and fully respectfully requested all of that, these FAR OFF SELF PRESERVING “Third Troubling Tier Of NO Real Human Relationship still do seem to ever happen ,(but only from the SAME 1-2, so called BIG FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS).

 

So it appears that SELF WORSHIP is deeply a part of the Human Society, and even so in the Sweet Infant Baby Devout Self righteous followers. Hmmm

THIS IS A CHRISTIAN MINISTRY TRUE EXPERIENCE (perhaps later I’ll ad a true major Crazymatic Toxic Charismatic Witchcraft second) check back tomorrow

 

WHEN a fellow Christian personal ministry presenting himself as Genuine Sr Office peer refused to return the loan of a $1200 Korg stand up, newly purchased ministry keyboard, and I dutifully attempted to Matthew 18:15/Gal 6:1 firmly, respectfully up front CONFRONT, I was avoided ..adeptly, artfully..but then later I was accused for “not being SWEET Like baby Jesus” for HE, THEY “are the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus” and I was viewed as SINNING by NOT desiring to firmly Matthew 18:15 Bible Up Front confront… (THAT was way back, beginning the deep southwest “Christian Ministry” start of the area wide LEARNING CURVE..YET …that’s only the FIRST one..there are a couple MORE DFW region similar MEGA to MINI) But not today.

 

AND REGRETABLY…MANY PARTS OF “.CHRISTIAN MINISTRY” (mostly TV affected, famous Celebrity Christian fully watching) DOES APPEAR TO PRACTICE QUITE A LOT OF I SAMUEL 15:23 …AND IT IS CONTROLLING….MISSING BEING “EASILY INTREATED” PLUS OPERATING IN FAR LESS THAN THE JAMES 3:17 “WISDOM COMING FROM HOLY LEADER GOD ABOVE”

FAR TOO MANY BIG CHEESE “UBBORN -STAY ” MINISTRY OFFICE PLAYERS.. WHO DO NOT OFFICE SUBMIT ABIDING JAMES 3:17, SO AS IT’S NOT VERY HEALTHY, RELATIONSHIP SAFE, BETTER MANY NOW PREFER TO GO ONLINE

TO REMAIN, TO RESEMBLE, TO ROLE MODEL “EASILY ENTREATED“may resemble each of the following several examples (there are many more but YOU think of all of the many possibilities).

 

AUTHENTIC “EASILY ENTREATED” ALWAYS INVOLVES TWO OR MORE PARTIES..UNLESS IT’S A MATTER BETWEEN YOU AND THE LORD MOST HIGH. (And then that would be HIS CALL as to whether or not YOU or I were being “easily entreated” about His request)

 

IN THE HUMAN RELATIONSHIP ARENA….IT WILL INVOLVE YOU possibly involved in a (at first very healthy) chat, long discussion…with a fellow human being, fellow leader, your spouse, mother in law, roommate,business coworker, fellowship ministry acquaintance,and/or a human being whom you begin to have a big conversation with in a more public, or party or private setting, etc.

PSALM 121: 1 AKA “I’m betting FULLY ON the performing GOD”(PS Psalm 118:8/9, Celebrity Micah 7:5)

 

Yet suddenly there comes a big difference in YOUR opinion and the one shared by the other VERY OPINIONATED, well thought out God formed Human Person.

 

The differences in people’s mostly heightened, more passionate about defending, and taking a big stand for their (usually very well previously thought out HIGHER CAUSE ) may be any of the GETTING TENDED TO RILE UP many belief choices.

 

1. Bible beliefs, customs, traditions, particular verses, Supreme Hot Button ministry subjects: Pre Trib Pan Trib,Post Trib, males, females in ministry, etc

 

2. BRIMMING HAPPENING…CONTINUING…NATIONAL POLITICS (!!!) (Surely collectively what’s addressed in this entire article might give EASILY ENTREATED ideas)

 

“Each person’s (all global humanity’s) personal selected life IDENTITY slowly evolves, is mainly environmentally, personal experiences along with peer, family, personal values, views, choice of faith then add in the modern ongoing MEDIA. But before that ever first forms, then later GELLS..that prior to all of that, EACH PERSON has a PRIOR REPEATEDLY ASSESSING HISTORY(be it safe, pleasant, accepting OR NOT)… Thus starting OUT..from the VERY FIRST the open, ought to be keep safe, highly valued, fully respected INNOCENT NAIVE OPEN BABY, TODDLER, YOUNG CHILD, TEEN first ,happens, only comes after they are first BORN, RAISED and then discover what’s going on IN LIFE and/or their Unique Selves.

 

SO…TO LAMBAST any Human Living Person for the real persons CHOICES following their VERY OWN PRIVATE, OFTEN OVERLY EXTREME… PRIOR ACCUMULATED HISTORY ..in which YOU have never SHARED…then YOU, WE, I ought to be far more merciful, big compassionate.

 

WISE COUNSEL TO THE NEW AS WELL AS THE PRIOR NEW MIGHTY MOVE..LOVINGLY ASSESSED AS SAGE MINISTRY

FOR (discerning out here in the grass boot scoot rough roots Saved Christians..only gauging by their TRUE FRUITS..) thus saying that WHEN more than half the CHRIST ACCEPTERS are not living the TRUE ORGANIC LOVING REALLY RESPECTING MINISTRY PART.. I would sincerely warn YOU to CAN THE BIG ACCUSER OT LEVITICAL LEGALISM BIG SMALL MINDED YET BIG OPEN CONDEMNING ELDER BIASED MOUTH

3. ACCURATELY PERCEIVING LGBT

NOTE: see below as is very similar what most each have too often repeatedly endured and now equate all the less than positive with “saying YOU are born again” Or that YOU represent “getting saved” (PS Frankly I truly respect that each ONE is a child formed in the image of the Lord God (Psalm 139.) I am straight but have taught with, laughed with and even been rescued by a Good Samaritan which helped me out tremendously last year in the Denton rape attempt after math.

 

I truly respect and heed, nearly all LGBT, and assess each human being ONE by big impassioned(be they quiet or very loud) ONE…and this person has car pooled, taught alongside, repeatedly hung out with, had my hair lusciously DFW coiffed and styled, and even was RESCUED by an area Good Samaritan, after the rape attempt, huge car troubles, when NARY A “spirit filled supposed Born Again non caring yet charismatic would offer even a finger of fellow Christian /minister peer sort of help.

 

SO I would respectfully advice: regard and really view them ONE BY ONE.And this meaning Big Christian, LGBT, Minister, Pastor, Mama,Dark Skin, light skinned and /or ANY OTHER appearing person.

 

AND HENCE I RESPECT EACH AND EVERY HUMAN ON IN EACH OF God formed Peoples, plus their many subgroups…as Psalm 139 strongly implies that FIRST, prior personal Choice of IDENTITY and/or which LORD they will choose…FIRST and very first and FOREMOST , each and every ONE of them are HUMAN BEINGS..with each one of them being a UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL, truly called for God’s purposes..With the understanding, that not ALL will understand and/or if they do, will choose to RISE UP and to move forward in doing such as that

FIRST OF ALL in the area deep deep southwest, I find that I a LOT of “lukewarm” Lost First Love, over working “Christians” who are NOT much HOT (passionate) for their Number One Cause..which is the CAUSE OF CHRIST, rather than Bless ME, US, ONLY OUR FOUR…so with keeping that Revelation 2:15-16 OVER ALL “BE HOT, NOT PUNY WUSS AS IN LUKE WARM” PERSPECTIVE..I can say brutally and honestly that I PREFER ANY SET OF TRUE BELIEFS, be they GAY, HINDU, BUDDHIST, PAGAN, MUSLIM…and/oror ANY OTHER’S MUCH LIVELY CONVERSATION… over any weak wuss, being complacent OVER SELF SERVING COMPLETELY SELF, WE ALL CENTRIC to Ministry/Born Again LUKEWARM…

Hope that that is NUFF NOW SAID.

 

AND sense the LGBT (plus all of the prior many others are raring big Hot, too) HOT for their cause, not LUKEWARM like so many “profession(mostly glad to be RED STATE” all wise clandestine”born agains.” So I prefer to honor and respect them ..which I do anyway but then I would tell the true Born again of Christ the following WE BETTER LIGHTEN UP and RETHINK about WHAT we say as well as HOW CHRIST would react today. I do not believe he would ACCUSE, LEADER FINGER POINT. I submit, that he would go about it a hugely different ONE UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL by ONE UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL fair, James 3:17 Modeling, supremely easily entreated, very low key, servant leader, lay Divinely Holy Spirit fully led way..

AND DUE TO THE FUEL OF THE FIRES on nightly news, online almost every single hour of each day. all of the RIGHT WING accusing, lambasting, representing CHRIST and ALL BORN AGAIN (not this person) as HATING, REJECTING, DESPISING them ALL IN ONE “HATED RELIGIOUS (BACK UNDER THE LAW) STEREOTYPE..I would use extreme majorly low key searched out wisdom, which to me is “Listen, let JESUS speak to them, If I hang out with an individual, male or female, gay or straight.

 

1. First I realize that MOST EACH AND NEARLY EVERY one has a big past life prior to my meeting them. So I try to find out what that might be SINCE it is not my will or policy to HURT THEM, ABUSE THEM, ACCUSE THEM or make them feel DISRESPECTED ever again. AND if they have had previous self righteous, hostile, Bible beat down prior leaders CHRISTIAN family.

Whereas, I now feel it’s my own moral responsibility to first try to be sincere, genuine, fully accepting, not problematic, Jesus servant really LOVE them… and genuinely be very interested in who they are, where they COME FROM, what happened on their prior journey.

 

NOTE: Early in DFW God had me meet a gay male transcriber. He had been raped all during his Catholic High school formative main youth years( 14 until end of high school) by the priest. (UP NEAR CANADA.NOT IN TX)..but when he told his father, who was a wealthy church donor, the father started to do it to him too! Then he moved to DFW with his partner, to look after the partners elderly parents. When they gave money to a “born again Christian” contractor, she ripped them off and told them “I’ll pray for you.” When this astute, majorly gifted wise,true gentleman, worked in an office, many people would leave anonymous tracts on his desk. So by the time he got to me, I wondered if he were a Christian to which he replied “I USED TO BE” and then shared the above.

BORN AGAIN EGO DEEP SOUTH BIG UGH.

This well studied gentleman said that when he’d studied the Bible, he’d found only “9 verses that warned about homosexuals, but 333 (something around that) that warned about HETEROSEXUALS” which I really thought AMAZING and Humorous..Plus he was the one God used to open my blind eyes to the SINS OF SODOM listed in Ezekiels, which upon reading most of them, sound quite similar to the SLEEPING COMPLACENT “POOR OLE ME” CHURCH

SINS OF SODOM (A SOLEMN WAKE UP SOS??) EZEKIEL 16:48-50

“Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.”

 

..and the NO MATTER WHAT, WHO ,WHY OR HOW I feel next it’s my True Christ Follower job (which I deeply enjoy!!) to RESPECT EACH ONE OF THEM and LET THEM TELL ME WHATEVER. And I will never ever act surprised, horrified or put in any way off, FOR not everyone has come up UNSCATHED but many LGBT definitely HAVE and I don’t need to be another PAINFUL HATEFUL, DISRESPECTFUL supposed Good Will Ambassador who say I represent Jesus.

 

2. Let the Lord lead you on all this. I also would say that rather than turning LGBT into a ACCUSATORY SHOUT DOWN or Bible preaching Beating Down, I would pin point representing JAMES 3:17 “easily entreated” which would allow any sort of human person to have their full say..no matter what. And one would respectfully defer and listen and then humble maybe submit a different point of view.

 

I would say that if “LGBT Christians” surface that no matter WHAT is said, these hardened self right days, the ONLY one any one will really truly hear about INVITING JESUS CHRIST INTO THEIR HEARTS THEN DOING WHATEVER THE BIBLE SAYS is going to only usually come from GOD HIMSELF penetrating to whatever their theology inside their hearts (each one unique, case by human individual case).

BEST WISE ADVICE TO FELLOWSHIP/ “BORN OVER AGAIN”

LEADERSHIP

THIS WELL EXPERIENCED HUMAN COMPASSIONATE SOUL…WOULD USE “ZERO” STEREOTYPES OR PAST PRECONCEIVED, TV, ONLINE, SOME OF YOUR AGE OLD PASSED DOWN MINISTRY, PERSONAL, WHAT GRANNY ALWAYS USED TO SAY…INFLAMMATORY NEWLY REGARDED AS “CLEAR BIGOT, MAYBE HATE SPEECH.”

 

No… I would PERCEIVER SEE that ever single one is a God formed TO BE RESPECTED and ACCOUNTABLE HUMAN. Meaning each person, whether it’s YOU or I..one day are going to stand all alone before inescapable maybe terrifying…God’s Holy Throne and need to give an ministry, private, personal ACCOUNT of every choice, decision, whether or not they accept Christ as only personal Lord and Savior ..plus if each person, you or I or any other them..did after that, such as did they let Christ heal, restore them and/or did they choose to avoid. And what about how each person chooses to deal with the Bible commands…even to omit Ephesians 4 wealth of true Christian abiding relationship (into unified community) non bigoted, non Bible beating and multicultural, diverse?

 

And as a life this endeavoring into being exceeding long, Ye Must Be Born Again, but Jesus long time ago accepter (9 year old, rededicated 12, then went fully GUNG HO for around age 16,when I identified with the youth movement named JESUS PEOPLE (which in big hindsight,definitely appearing solid white but not WE CENTRIC or into OWNING any others, or I would have never taken part. Since maybe age 5, God has continually made me fully aware of even the tiniest tad bits or hints of racism… and as there WERE NONE I , for that transforming young, college period of Christ following time, identified with the preferring barely no big legalism/and /or s set hierarchy …nor any demands to conform to (way back then but maybe into 1980s) that Special Business/Sr Ministry ” Power Look” Suits (most all of which were polyester..which I back then and currently cannot much abide by..prefer natural fibers. YET that’s one persons CHOICE)..

So Jesus People did not want to focus or emphasize seekers, attenders on shallow surface (still real ministry issues) such as OUTSIDE “appearance” (Outer Court type stuff) …

 

.And I still prefer and want to emphasize with that INNER COURT (past the clothes, our looks, our skin color, our habits) transformation (deep heart motives, transforms our ways) ministry leader pure focus..with much servant leader mature orientation Jesus People.

And way back then, continuing through college and into early marriage, very possibly with kids.

 

SO we represent Christ by FULL ON RESPECTING, listening without ACCUSING, ATTACKING or TELLING THEM OFF..(PS not “easily entreated , full of mercy, etc) Use James 3:17 test.

 

YET, there is such a NON PC thing for the GOOD, SAVED TRUE CHRISTIAN, who may feel that it’s GOD’S DUTY to SET EACH ONE BIBLE (Old Testament Levitical) FULLY STRAIGHT (no matter how it is not sensitive or Holy Spirit fully directed or even BACK UNDER THE LAW.

 

I would calm at least SOME of your furtive fiery hearts by submitting. EACH person has RIGHT to have an OPINION, even if YOU or I do not agree. So think of what a confirmed LGBT or one which professes to be BORN AGAIN LGBT is truly wisely saying “I DO NOT FULLY BELIEVE YOUR BIBLE THEOLOGY.”

 

One may mean by this “I don’t believe in the Bible at all nor do I want your BIBLE CHRIST” .which would be THEIR FREE CHOICE and they should be respected to not force them or put pressure on them or be ANGRY, ACCUSING, DISRESPECTFUL to them…NO rather role model self control, polite EASILY ENTREATED ans say to your special skilled Straight Arrow OT Levitical Self..'”Oh, they do not prefer to believe exactly like I do, yet I will really RESPECT THEM as they will automatically discern and perceive, deep inside their knower, if I DO NOT.

 

FULLY NOTE…AND PLEASE FULLY GET THIS… MAJOR Reason: most prior persecuted, accused, abused, racially or anykind of emotionally dominated, will have a special perceiver discerner BIG DEPTH which many times comes about due to need to warn prior to childhood beating, domestic about, racial, life, many international PERSECUTIONS)

SO PLEASE…BE FULLY WIDE AWAKE TO ALL THAT.

LAST, if the LGBT tells you they are CHRISTIAN, then allow only God to guide you and share IF, WHEN, WHAT God ever leads to say. BUT understand ONLY GOD can get to them for any type of conviction…just like with YOU …so simply avoid fisticuffs, switching into preach all out mode…and say only what God wills, but them make this comment to your real self, “I can pray for them to hear from GOD I don’t need to be THEIR HOLY SPIRIT. Because they must have a totally different view of Bible theology

 

NOTE: I mentioned “DIFFERENT BIBLE THEOLOGY” twice. Here’s why.All of this is grown enormously complex and nobody understands COMMON DOCTRINE OF EPHESIANS 4 which identifies the hall- marks of a “saved Christian”..NOTE This does not seem to reckon along with each of Apostle Paul’s commands. “fornication, LGBT type things and also “woman not preach in church” and “do not forsake fellowshipping with the saints, ETC.

AND WITH EPHESIANS 4 COMMON LEADER DOCTRINE in mind.I have long pondered about why PAUL’S COMMANDS are used to accuser finger point in the Church communities (at least in deep accuser critical deep south) So I took it upon to research. Now, what I will say next is SELAH OPINION not dogma. SO the Christian born again practicing LGBT has to deal with the sexual issues (justly fornication and straights) within their RELATIONSHIP with CHRIST. BUT HOW..how, due to (just my giving my apostolic opinion..)

 

YET, CLEARLY, we’re not meaning PC Compromise, but rather being MERCIFUL and DIFFERENT to provoke new area wisdom…

 

YET…WHILE THE LORD holds each ‘Christian believer accountable for following, submitting to EVERY SINGLE BIBLE NT COMMAND, Apostle Paul’s included, ….YET God the merciful Father understands that EACH ONE OF US has many “begetting sins” (so far, everyone, including this majorly human person can’t 100% measure up and become so SOLID as to NOT fall into SOME type of “do not do” Type Sin, due to the flesh being very very weak. SOME may be weak in the area of lust, sex, but many others are weak in drugs, overspending, timewasting,calling in sick when you’re perfectly well, skipping church, video gaming excess, too many to contemplate. SO I draw the line from ASSESSING a person’s shortcomings, sins..but fully stop before ACCUSING and this is where it needs to end (top www.onlinefellowship.us COMMON DOCTRINE EPHESIANS 4 Explanation PDF)

I SAY That last one to make a keen lighten up big theological major point..

Let’s be somewhat understanding not every person will 100%. (Assess. And certainly not me.)

4 (HAVE ACCUSATIVE PRE CHRISTIAN PAST) I know far to many of these and some are perhaps the LOST LEADERSHIP of the Church today or tomorrow, And my heart goes out to each and every dear near human thinking wounded person..

 

Past Christian now Buddhist, pagan, and many more.… or a passionate real person was never was a into Lord Jesus yet by now has meet too many of “Jesus Born Again Friends” (majorly including their “all wise and very preachy All Born Again Family and Well Intentioned yet hypocrite bad dominating Religious Bible Thumping “YOUR GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL” “ye must be born again” or ‘tongue talking way too pushy” neighbors, and that has cemented the deal..at least in their made up well thought out, mostly highly and deeply intelligent and NOT one bit lukewarm usually lively minds.

 

5. NOT A CHRISTIAN BUT HEARD EITHER GOOD OR VERY EVIL (Evil due to TV Media or bad repeated prior encounters. But as most of the ABOVE also mostly pertains here I will simply share this comment. Indian pacifist, widely respected leader was known to comment, “I might have accepted Christ, had it not been for meeting too many of his representatives.” PS and Ghandi was turned away from attending a Christian church “because his skin was too dark.”

 

CHRISTIAN. GET OUR THE E.O.R.R. and put it into practice in EVERY type of place. Body of Christ YOU need to be fully all RELATIONSHIP FULLY READY ..but then don’t use stereotypes, SEE RELATIONSHIPS but defer and show GENUINE JESUS CHRIST “real respect” for ALL.

HANDFUL OF EXAMPLES OF POTENTIAL JAMES 3;17 “EASILY ENTREATED REPRODUCED CHARACTER FRUIT”

 

1. Spiritually “EASILY INTREATED means that one is not being “UBBORN -STAY .which I Samuel 15:23 is the same as “INIQUITY and IDOLATRY”. Which also may include “dominating opinionated, leader bullheaded, hard hearted (which is evidenced by hard HEARTED…and cold and very unmoveable in YOUR own opinion

 

2. Remaining Christ like “easily intreated “even if someone brags, tells false untrue Bible doctrine, has a LGBT or any other LIFESTYLE CHOICE, has any pithy POLITICAL RIGHT OR LEFT or ANY OTHER view.Plus if YO CRABBY MAMA begins to push YOU for not doing things her way. OR if your spouse and you end up in a near pillow throwing clearly stress fill, borderline want to SCREAM ACCUSATIONS, ACCUSE, SWEAR…(then YOU remember to turn to GOD for HIS HOLY SPIRIT inner HELP to practice personal self government so that at least YOU(maybe SHE?) can remain “silent, easily intreated and not turn away to grumble and sulk.

 

3. You and a Bible scholar colleague each of studied a portion of God’s Holy Scriptures, But both your interpretations are completely different and surely YOU surmise that HIS (HER’S) IS FALSE, ERRANT and UNTRUE. So what does one really do (this also can apply to MEDIA TV/ONLINE Bible teachers).

 

IF they are close by then it may feel like a certain real inner PRESSURE, TENSION along with a big desire to try to PROVE that THEY must have made a big mistake, or that YOU are correct but they are NOT. Yet then the other person will also chime in. AND this part is where EASILY ENTREATED comes to play.

 

1. Each person has a right to voice their own opinion, ONE is right ONE may not be. Yet even if it’s an impassioned debate, the person who remains EASILY ENTREATED will demonstrate RELATIONSHIP PRESERVING, FULL RESPECT for that other (clearly errant) sent person..

 

NOTE: One who is James 3:17 “easily entreated” will not have to WIN the argument. Nor will they have to PROVE that THEY are “in the RIGHT.” Nor will they have to have the LAST special say” “OR get the Final Word in.” (such is also the tell tale healthy signs of HUMILITY mingled in

 

IF you find yourself in the midst of a heated political, ministry, family, business, any other ENORMOUSLY finger pointing, tending to rage, or accuse, or shout of (worst even multiplied today) to SHOUT OVER SOMEONE to drown out THEIR voice in order to CONTROL and make YOUR point, voice HEARD.

This is 1)society in almost bordering into mayhem. 2) supreme power play using mass crowd power to control with much (non easily entreated ) attacking, labeling, name calling and even abusive and perhaps intentional antagonism, plus mix in all of the powers of media.

SO if you get caught up in a unhappy NON EASILY INTREATABLE (which usually always accompanies MEAN and very DISRESPECTFUL, even wanting to CONTROL, DEVALUE, and much more) then, once you said what you feel you want to say (IF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO) then after checking the gathering atmosphere/ambiance…to sense if YOU feel safe, be respected, valued or not…

IF SO, you probably want to remain. IF NOT ,then quietly sensitively just slip quietly on out. A very helpful Bible verse “Have nothing to do with an angry man( human, her, big or very small unhappy or perhaps even volatile BUNCH”

EASILY ENTREATED…. “I put all my trust, confidence and human EGO in the Lord’s safe hands so even if THEY, HE, SHE, don’t want to really listen, I don’t really care. Because the ONLY ONE I really want to PLEASE is the Lord My God.

 

EVERYTHING, EVERY TYPE OF PERSON, EVERY DIFFERENT SITUATION…I advice taking them as SINGULAR ,as ONE BY ONE, PERSON BY PERSON, INCIDENCE BY INCIDENCE and/or GROUP BY CLUBBY MINISTRY GROUP.

More could definitely be added, said, but have to save it for another real time.

Please continually pray for all of THIS as well as for this pioneering

ministry. Blessings!

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