“NOTE This is submitted USA Wide Ministry SELAH NOT AN AUTOCRATIC DOGMA..and for those who have leadership ear to purely hear”
PART 12 TMZ STYLE ATTACK MINISTRIES..ARE ANTI WOMEN
WE DEAL WITH WOMEN + APOSTLE PAUL VS THE WORD CURSE LAW
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OVERVIEW
This in-depth and lengthy passage discusses the methodology and fruits of a ministry that adopts a TMZ-style attack approach, particularly in relation to women but also affecting men. It raises questions about the compatibility of such methods with the teachings and examples of Jesus Christ, the Apostle Paul, and the early Church. It also emphasizes the importance of evaluating the fruit and transformation in the lives of those impacted by the ministry, rather than merely assessing it based on religious laws. Furthermore, it examines the character fruit and the impact on viewers, including humility, teachability, respect for Christian leaders, and the presence of the fear of the Lord. The passage also considers the effects on the broader Body of Christ and whether there is an increase in admiration and respect or the growth of negative traits such as sarcasm, disrespect, doubt, and division. Finally, it questions whether the ministry’s methods may contribute to the persecution of the Church by fueling an unyielding and non-contrite spirit.
THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THE NEW
We must put a difference between the “tone” of the first church minister, any Christian, and before that, back in the prophetic ministry days of the Torah Levitical law.
Applied rules vs. a relationship.
We are quick to point out that prioritizing the relationship in the Body of Christ must take top priority over laws, rules, and broken rules. Because now we live in the Church community, relationship, and apply God’s Word in our hearts with the personal help of the Holy Spirit. This implies getting to realize the love of the Creator Father who wants to be with us every day to guard, guide, and self-govern (Gal 5:22-23 – temperance, self-control). But it also includes training on how to hear, discern, and inwardly witness perceive God’s Word, direction, and instructions. It involves knowing what to accept and distinguishing between true and false in Bible teaching and in our private lives. Here is a start for the Bible on how:
This “how” will come slowly over time after many years of proper teaching, Bible equipping, getting fellowship, and “iron sharpens iron.” It can also come from making mistakes, trial, and experiencing many deep errors (and far more).
THE OLD TESTATMENT WANTED “RULES”
In the Old Testament, LP Torah Law focused in REQUIRED STRICT RULES. REASON: Christ had not come yet so the Holy Spirit was not desposited in every God follower like can be today. Hence, just a persons, mostly the PROPHETS heard directly from the Lord. And to make sure people were safe, protected and quided (to sins harming MANY RELATIONSHIPS) and also to instill a ETERNAL PERCEPTION of the Mighty God and to give the “holy, reverential pure fear of the Lord, in regards to God HIm and to keep the many Hebrew people “accountable” to the rules..God gave His servant Moses, as a wise prophet, the 10 COMMANDMENTS. Also the Levitical Law, TORAH BOOKS with rules ,sacrifcies to “Guard, Guide and Govern “God’s people.
This included families, males and females, wedded persons and governing authority and more.
SO the LAW governed through “pain of conseguences” not via “Holy Spirit conviction” and there is more on that, but not for now ,I must keep this short
IN COMES RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST AND THE NEW TESTAMENT
ABOVE: Due to John 16:13, “the Spirit of Truth,” which is God’s Holy governing Spirit, coming as an invisible but mighty yet seemingly small free deposit deep inside each person who knows Jesus and accepts Him as their personal Savior, demands training. However, much is also given freely through experience and time spent in personal Bible study and prayer. The Holy Spirit can provide a new infilling that helps individuals increase in power, wisdom, and often brings new ideas, wisdom, and revelation. Paul prayed these prayers for the new churches in Ephesians 1 and 3, stating, “I pray that you will move in wisdom and understanding in the knowledge of Him” (Ephesians 1:17), emphasizing a personal walk with the Lord.
The Galatians 1:1-2 servant apostle Paul’s teaching may sound strict, yet there are different ways to view some of it but not all.
FOR SOME MAN AUTHORITIES:
1) (roles, behaviors of males, females, are this articles main example here) say that it was based on the culture of pre-Christian Jews, Gentiles, Romans, and more, particularly in the context of slave-owning.
I SUBMIT
2) Jesus came to fulfill every jot and tittle of the Law. He gave His free gift of the Book of Acts to “write the law in our hearts” due to conscience, personal commitment, a person’s dedication to God, and also with the help of God (Galatians 5:23 – self-government).
KEEP TD’S PURE PERSPECTIVE(A BRIEF EXPERIENCE AUTO BIO)
T.D.’s own call, which has led to the widespread and often disconcerting, as well as dysfunctional, recurring pattern among believers in the Holy Spirit gifts, is based on decades of Holy Spirit-directed guidance. This guidance includes Ezekiel’s wheel, Enoch’s example in Genesis 5, being led by the inward witness, studying the Bible, prayer, and fellowship with wise individuals who sharpen each other.
The purpose behind this call became clear when I received a personal commission from the Lord to study the doctrines of ministry leaders in the USA. The aim was to understand their red flag buzzwords, pet peeves, leadership styles, and worship music preferences.
This specific call came at the end of Billy Graham’s ministry and aligned with my own ongoing, yet distinct path to reach the Jesus People, followed by the charismatic renewal and the rise of praise and worship movements. Subsequently, there were many new Spirit-filled movements, word of faith teachings, and significant growth in the commercialization of ministry.
While most of these developments were positive, I observed a gradual impact on doctrines as famous ministry names gained prominence and media influence grew. There was also a desire for wealth, fame, and worldwide recognition, which I identify as “wannabeism.” These desires were often well-intentioned but reflected immaturity and a lack of deep biblical equipping.
Hence, I believe I can understand the significant difference in perspective due to God’s grace in being born into a Christian pastor’s family with a collective scholarly understanding of the Bible. As new trends, primarily charismatic and some Pentecostal, emerged alongside the influence of media (such as Jim Bakker’s talk show), I noticed a disparity between how I perceived these developments and how grassroots believers, who were equally called, gifted, and sincere, but lacked the same level of upbringing or exposure, viewed them.
Many of these believers, maybe even the majority, who were not nurtured in a strong biblical foundation or directly influenced by renowned Bible teachers, absorbed teachings from the popular media or local churches under famous teachers. (and it is not ANY SIN, just a show of God great grace and a willingness t work..however, now we must as a SIGN that some DEEP TEACHING must be done..by every movement and this myself
For as time passed and media, training, depth, money-making, wealth, and the allure of success entered the picture, many blended what they heard from the famous leaders with their own needs, desires for superiority, and a lack of understanding regarding life, money, servant leadership, and deep compassion. Additionally, the influence of worldly and carnal forces, along with the male-dominated culture of Christianity, played a role.(I say CHRISTIAN MALES are GOOD and NEEDED and VALUED..it’s just the varied “CHARACTER” Fruits and false LP untrue ministry doctrines._
In conclusion, ministry individuals of equal value will have significant differences based on their upbringing, encounters with Christ, and the spiritual father or mother figure they regard as their role model. The influence of Christian media, local church dynamics, personal relationships, word-of-mouth interactions, transfer of attitudes and spirits, cultural norms, including Bible teaching, and the general populace shape one’s perspective and training. It is crucial to consider these factors and strive for discernment and alignment with what these leaders have truly done with and for the words they claim are from the Lord.
And this has been my personal journey and a continuous learning process filled with valuable experiences and a growing awareness of the untrustworthy aspects within the Christian life.
(mid, late 1990s core example) The 1996 issue of Charisma Magazine by Prophet Bob Buess, warning about the impending attack of a spirit of entertainment on the Church. This prediction has undeniably come to pass.
Misfit Christian “exclusive” groups consist of many religious individuals who barely tolerate those who want to visit or attend if they don’t conform to their own beliefs and practices. This exclusivity is often present even among leaders in the main ministry.
Furthermore, there is a tendency for individuals to rely on their own carnal knowledge and worldly ways, including showbiz, flashy presentations, wealth accumulation, and adherence to demonic traditions. The rise of many new giant ministries has led to a form of neo-Phariseeism, where each ministry has its own set of rules enforced by Pharisee-like overseers. Gentrification, excessive focus on material possessions, and an emphasis on personal success have also infiltrated the Christian community. Moreover, there remains a prominent issue of misogyny, with the excuse of “Christian Boys will be Boys” reminiscent of the story of Eli in 1 Samuel. Demas’ pursuit of achievement and the existence of a remaining Enoch-like remnant can be observed across all races. However, the most significant concern is the toxic dysfunction, similar to what the Apostle Paul warned about in 2 Timothy 3:1-5.
In addition, the belief that money is a qualifying sign of being blessed has become prevalent, contradicting the teachings of the Apostle Paul, who instructed us to turn away from such notions.
For I submit that I believe I survived to understand the significant difference in perspective based on the grace of being born into a collective, scholarly Bible-oriented, “noble Berean” True Christian pastor’s family. As the new winds and trends of primarily charismatic, pentecostal, and word faith movements emerged, along with the influence of media platforms like Jim Bakker’s talk show, I noticed a distinction in how I viewed these developments.
Personally, I remained unaffected by them,(mostly!) but I observed that individuals from grassroots backgrounds, who were equally called, gifted, talented, and sincere, but lacked the same level of education or exposure, often embraced these emerging trends. Many of these early Christians, who were first exposed to the faith through Christian TV or local churches under the guidance of famous Bible teachers, encountered challenges as time passed and media, training, wealth, and materialism became more prevalent. They combined the teachings of the prominent figures with their own desires for recognition, status, and worldly success. However, they often lacked the understanding of how to navigate life, handle money, cultivate deep compassion, and embrace servant leadership. Additionally, we must recognize the influence of the world, the carnal nature of humans, and the adversarial role of the devil.
In conclusion,submitted “equally” and “the trying hard” are valuable and steadfast ministry individuals will differ greatly based on their upbringing, their encounter with Christ, and the spiritual father, mother, or Christian role model they regard highly. In addition, factors such as Christian media, local and regional influences, real-life relationships, the power of word-of-mouth, the transfer of spirits and attitudes, cultural norms (both conscious and unconscious), accepted teachings, and the general beliefs of the populace all play a significant role. It is crucial to consider and focus on these aspects in our training and growth today. True understanding and growth come not solely from following famous and gifted Christian teachers worldwide, but from examining how they have lived out and applied the “words from the Lord.”
So, that sums up my perspective. It has been a lifelong journey—a continuous experience of learning and navigating through an evolving and sometimes untrustworthy landscape.
A LEAPING INTERJECTION.
Whereby Sister T shares her own cross-body view (as Selah, not autocratic flame-throwing critical dogma!).
The Logic:
Christ came to fulfill every bit of the Law. Paul teaches “grace,” but not greasy grace or licentiousness, so there must be an achieved balance. Yet, that balance is eternal, serving as a set standard for God’s highest approval. However, Jesus Christ also knows the condition of each of our hearts, the earthly realm, and what are called “besetting sins,” which I am all too familiar with.
Based on First Church theology, the Books of Acts, the personal leading of the convicting and directing Holy Spirit inward witness, balanced by the Bible and mature mentoring, asking deep questions, being accountable, and not forsaking fellowship with the saints (pure community), one is able to hear God or at least begin to and start to improve if they believe for themselves. That is true and the beginning of that learning journey.
We note that Paul was not a withstanding, religious rock-thrower. Yet, he had been a Torah accuser before his salvation when he was known as “Saul.” This serves as a lesson for us today, before and after the Law in a Christian ministry or pastor, person, leader, or lay. I frankly believe that Paul would preach with fire and passion, with the purpose of waking the slumbering and disturbing the complacent Law, to shock and awe. But then, he would be meek and easy to relate to, yet not compromising on truth. I sense, from what I realize about the key Ephesian community, that the apostle doubted himself due to his self-awareness of his own human carnal tendencies. Yet, he did not beat himself up or beat down anyone else. Paul kept his heart pure, teachable, and humble.
However, Apostle Paul’s passion for the maturing churches and their mission to seek and find the suffering and those who would be forever lost motivated him to preach with conviction for his allotted time, knowing that the world would keep ongoing without him until the day when the world would be over forever. And please keep that in mind, for these are the last days.
I believe that the converted Paul, no longer the critical Levitical Torah-keeping Saul, would not accuse anyone or any group. Rather, he would preach and apostolically train strongly in order to warn. See my own original encouraging word training teaching, prayer call from the mid-1980s. It began with Paul’s teaching to the Hebrews 10:25, “fellowshipping of the saints” (note: I read no training for accusing and reviling, demonizing, shaming minister persons in public).
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV
Again, we note how Apostle Paul viewed the Bible passage 2 Timothy 3:16-17 as instructing, correcting, reproving, admonishing, exhorting, and warning in the holy fear of the Lord.
FUTHERMORE ….OFFICE APOSTLE PAUL WOULD NOT LAMBAST, REVEAL or SHAME, DISRESPECT, DEFILE, DISHONOR OR ACCUSE
RESPECTFUL CHIEF APOSTLE PAUL
First, let’s examine the character of the Apostle Paul and his approach to training in relation to the discussion of the Torah Law in modern Christian ministry.
Apostle Paul demonstrated humility and integrity in his character. He did not consider himself a famous or superior apostle, but rather regarded himself as the lowliest of individuals. This humble perspective is crucial to understanding his teachings.
Before delving further into the topic, it is essential to explore the wise mentoring of Apostle Paul to the churches, which can be found in one remarkable chapter, 2 Timothy 3.
In 2 Timothy 3, we encounter passages that contain both the pain associated with the last days and its cure. It is important to read the cure first, which is outlined in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV): “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.”
Apostle Paul foresaw the need for a cure in these perilous last days. He issued a warning about untrustworthy character traits that could be present even within churches, sincere families, ministries, and congregations, as well as among various groups in society.
According to 2 Timothy 3:1-5 (KJV), in the last days, people will exhibit various negative characteristics. They will be lovers of themselves, covetous, boastful, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, lacking natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those who are good, traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God. They may appear to have godliness, but they deny its power. In response to such individuals, one should turn away.
Additionally, 1 Timothy 6:5 (KJV) warns against perverse disputings of individuals with corrupt minds, devoid of truth, who suppose that gain is godliness. It advises withdrawing from such people.
As a pastor, teacher, parent, or prophet, it is essential to print out 2 Timothy 3:1-5, 1 Timothy 6:5, and study and train against these negative traits. It is crucial to recognize and address these fruits within oneself and one’s congregation, and actively work to overcome them.
HOW APOSTLE PAUL REPSECTED EACH BELIEVER RIGHT TO HEAR GOD ABOUT BIBLE REVELATION
Pure, non-religious-wise, Paul also trained on the “rights” of every believer to grow and hear from God for themselves. This includes discerning the type of spiritual ministry doctrine they abide by and distinguishing what and who is true or false.
And that is precisely what this person does!
Main point: “Wherefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” Paul mentors in 1 Timothy 3:6-17 (KJV).
Also Apostle Paul praised the noble Bereans for diligently examining his ministry teaching and comparing it to the existing Scriptures. They were more noble than those in Thessalonica because they received the word with readiness of mind and searched the Scriptures daily to verify its truth (Acts 1:17, KJV).
Conclusion: If Paul serves as a servant model, and while he says a lot about women, we, as God-directed and living individuals, can each seek guidance regarding “women leaders” or “all Christians.” We can seek understanding from the Old Testament Torah law culture back then or from our present time. It’s up to each of you!
The BIG FIRST CHURCH AUTHENTIC MINSITRY KEY is “respect” and abiding in unbroken, undivided Christ-reflection. We are not going back under the covering of the Book of the Law but under Christ. Each of us has our own governing ministry mind to discern these matters.
APOSTLE PAUL”S LEADERSHIP EQUALLY APPLIES TO BOTH MALES AND FEMALES, GOD’S LEADER CHOICE WOMEN AND CHOICE MEN
FOR ANY PERSONS RECORD
DR T is PRO Chain of Command, Head of Home as Husband, when, if they are legally married and both sign on to that PRIOR to legal marriage, Furthermore endorse Ephesians 5:21 “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord” (when 2 people “understand it’) which makes the wife joyfull Ephesians 5:22 (unless it is a power struggle, unequally yokes, lack of training and immaturity) PS TAVEAU D’ARCY CREATIVE LEADERSHIP and IFFM, CROSS BODY UNITY advocate THESE potential wedding vows due to abuse demonic behavior in MANY Christian born again person:
“TO DEATH DO US PART is TRAINED and GIVEN OUT TO IMPLY m 1) till natural death 2) OR if he/she is “killing YOU from the outside IN or the INSIDE OUT or the KIDS similar..THEN YOU GET OUT!
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BACK TO PAUL… MALE, FEMALE OFFICE CHOICE,HERO ROLE, NOT UNDER THE OT LAW “BUT IN ORDER”
However, all of that is for each person (males, females, in or out of church) to decide individually.
Reasons: Apostle Paul also emphasizes the importance of abiding in peaceful, harmonious, transformed, and pure community (Ephesians 1:6, 2:14-15, entire chapter 4, 5:21).
But surely Paul was not politically correct or a people pleaser who only focused on the gentle side of Jesus (too afraid to make waves). He was directed by the Holy Spirit and assessed as truly balanced.
While we acknowledge that Apostle Paul teaches many strong commands for which we will be held accountable before the Lord in the end-time judgment, he also writes, “it is by grace that we are saved, not by works, so that no one can boast” (he recognizes that while most Christians desire to obey all the commands found in the Pauline and other Bible writings of Jesus and the first apostles, due to besetting sins, no one other than Christ could ever fulfill them all). Hence, we all need to come to Christ for strength, help, and forgiveness, and that’s why we need His giant, unmerited, and undeserved grace every day.
BACK TO THE LEADER WOMEN….SUBMITTED AS SELAH QUESTIONS
STARTING WITH THE CHIEF OFFICE REAL WOMEN:
TD ASKS HERSELF THE FOLLOWING (regarding the named 3 most famous NON LP women BETH MOORE, JOYCE MYERS AND PAULA WHITE
IN LIGHT OF APOSTLE PAUL and what we discussed all ready, I submit that EACH VALUED READER MUST HEAR GOD FOR HIM, HER, THEMSELF
So I submit basic QUESTIONS (in light being targeted and called out, publically and SHAMED by fellow Christ, (who not of their doctrinal ministry group
1. Are each of these (3 named) women mature adults?
2. Are these of Proper Age to make a Bible Choice for themselves? (be these a single or married) minus the LAW.. would each fall under the Pauline First Church ministry admonition to “work out their own salvation with fear and trembling” (hear God for themselves as what HE says to follow, think and to obey, train in theology)
3 These 3 female training married are married. So how does the authority of the marriage and the husband come into play in all of this TMZ Style bashing?
Using Beth Moore and her husband as my example, ministry Beth is wed.(actually the same thing applies to all 3 famous women but all married women in Christian Ministry)
SO with Married Beth More and Her Husband in Mind: Apparently, they abide together in Ephesians 5:21, practicing mutual submission in the fear of the Lord. They both believe that she is called by God to pursue her training ministry. While Beth may appear as the more famous one (similar to Joycend Paula), all three women operate in accordance with Ephesians 5:21, willingly submitting to their mature leader husbands as outlined in Ephesians 5:22.
This reminds me of a Bible Deborah, a well-known prophet and Hebrew judge who governed both males and females under the palm tree. However, she left her strong mantle of authority at work and went home to her cherished, yet considered “weaker vessel,” her mature and mighty husband “Lapidoth.” This example suggests that they, too, dwelled in the Old Testament version of mutual submission in the fear of the Lord and recognized the chain of command outlined in Ephesians 5:22.
ASSESSING HOLY SPIRIT FAIRNESS AND USE OF MINISTRY METHODOLOGY
Apostle TD now considers the fairness and methodology of Paul, the First Church
SUBMITTED: that each and every person, every minister, ever TMZ Style Christian should, ought to and even must respect the privacy of their marriage covenant and vows, especially in today’s context.
POINT (as previously mentioned above): I believe that if Beth’s wedded husband has “agreed” to her preaching and teaching, and stands behind her, then each of them “together ” have obeyed PAUL and “worked their own salvation” in the privacy of their home. If he has agreed and Beth is submitted also, then have worked it out” Ephesians 5:21 “mutually submitted” to what God has called both of them to do. and SHE is Ephesians 5:22 submitted.
AN ACUTE POINT: It is improper and lacking professional ministry manners, as well as demonic false teaching, for any distant minister to single out a married woman and purposefully pursue, defame, and demean her by falsely claiming she is in sin.
MAIN POINT: Targeting and assuming that the married woman is false and in sin for public Bible teaching overrides the private bonds of her marriage. It invades and defiles both Beth and her husband.
Based on the toxic and erroneous fruit of such actions, would the Christian senior office teacher, pastor, or prophet be judged solely based on their choice of fruit? Would Jesus, in the “WWJD” (What Would Jesus Do) context of First Church, consider this mean and improper authority as true or false?
In my view, all of this appears as toxic, biased, misogynistic, and unfair fruit. It is rude, all-knowing, objectifying, and proudly superior. It is presumptuous, character assassinating, flagrant, and legalistic, showing no regard for Beth (Joyce, Paula, or any other woman) as a human being whom God loves, respects, and values.
This “entrepreneurial” gain saying ,and calling out and fruit-based judgment lacks respect, kindness, and the deep value that Christian ministry should uphold for both human persons. It mainly targets and undermines women, displaying a generally anti-women sentiment (which applies to almost all women).
Moreover, it strips the wedded couple of their boundaries, invading and surpassing the sacred realm of their marriage. It violates their own authority over themselves and their life, presuming to know every detail about God, doctrine, and true ministry.
I emphasize that this type of fruit is biblically untrue, and I categorize it as “false.” It is opportunistic, openly reviling, and perpetuates a devilish targeting and continuing word curse. I assess it as “false teaching” from my standpoint as an office person.
Furthermore, it is presumptuous, immature, and weak for these individuals (mostly men) to assume that they are in authority over each married couple and know their private inner affairs.
Judging solely by the negative aspects present in their fruit, I find this TMZ-style attack methodology to be incorrect and driven by a desire to make a name for themselves, ultimately centered around monetary gain.
I refer to this trend as “the new form of prosperity teachers” who are primarily focused on monetized videos. Their claim of being placed into authority over married couples by the Most High God is false.
PS WONDERING are a lot of these MACHO minsitries, who are out to WIN at any cost (Do they like their own MOTHERS? (something is wrong!)
THIS LENGTHY TMZ WOMEN PART IS CLOSING FOR NOW. Not quite sure if this is the LAST WORD..we”ll
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