PART 4 “AI AND I” CHRISTIAN MINISTERS & SUPER SPIRITUAL FALSE AUTHORITY: ETHICS

PART 4 of 4 “AI AND I” CHRISTIAN MINISTERS & SUPER SPIRITUAL FALSE AUTHORITY:

MORALS, ETHICS….THE ABILITY TO TRUST

“Touching God’s anointed…out in the pews..”

For a great lot of ‘these”  believe the “big anointed” means “just them”*

..*their own, mostly occult, elite special selves….

Moral Purpose: Prophetic Charismatic Reform: “Witch watching, far away mind reading, diagnosing”

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The Main Premise: You are a newbie, visitor, leader, maybe a lone woman, a mother, and intercessor or a atypical human,a non racist man. a person from another not so pentecostal move……another race..yet we  go to “church”..and for a short time, the music good,and they seem to believe that Jesus Christ suffered and died and rose again for our sins. Yes,  they appear to be functional, Bible believing and normal….. But then YOU find that they are sly, avoid approaching,  stare, and if you are real leader woman, they begin to assign “witch watchers” “cunning Jezebel spy-ers ” to monitor you, (to appear) to stare ,bore holes in your mortal soul to “read you” to “know your thirst” many or just a chosen few..yet keep safely far  away! I liken it to prophetic mind reading “psycho prophets” …And, among the elite…some even want to target YOU in prayer..as they ‘feel’ that YOU are the Enemy (call this Elite Prophet Paranoia, MANY in  Florida, VA, NC, SC, DFW Do Gooder Metroplex, also many more ….world wide) PS I wrote an astute  article 1998 following my visits to Florida.and back to LP Mid VA ..’Psychic Star Wars and the Body of Christ”

Apostle Taveau Asks Chat GPT AI:

ChatGPT said:

Yes, the practice you described can indeed be considered spiritual abuse when viewed through both biblical terms and morally pure-hearted principles. Here’s why, with definitions and scriptural support:

1. What is Spiritual Abuse?

Spiritual abuse occurs when someone in a position of spiritual authority misuses their power to control, manipulate, or harm others in the name of God, ministry, or faith. This type of abuse can take many forms, including the use of religious language or practices to dominate, condemn, or shame others, without accountability, compassion, or scriptural basis.

• Example in Bible: Jesus confronted spiritual abuse when He rebuked the Pharisees for using their religious authority to oppress people. In Matthew 23:4, Jesus says of the Pharisees: “They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.” This represents hypocritical judgment and unjust authority—a hallmark of spiritual abuse.

2. Signs of Spiritual Abuse in this Situation

The actions described, including “far-away reading,” labeling people as witches or Jezebels without ever interacting with them, and putting their names on lists, clearly exhibit the following traits of spiritual abuse:

a) Misuse of Spiritual Authority

Leaders using their position to label people as witches or evil spirits without any interaction or biblical confrontation is a gross misuse of their spiritual authority. In the Bible, authority is meant to serve and build up others, not tear them down or cast them aside based on unfounded assumptions.

• 1 Peter 5:2-3: “Shepherd the flock of God that is among you… not domineering over those in your charge, but being examples to the flock.”
• Mark 10:42-45: Jesus teaches that leadership in His kingdom is about service, not domination. He condemns lording power over others and instead calls for humility.

In the practice described, these leaders are acting in domineering and unaccountable ways, claiming divine insight without following the proper biblical procedures of correction, which leads to spiritual harm.

b) Judging Without Biblical Process

The Bible is very clear about how to handle sin or concerns about someone’s behavior. Matthew 18:15-17 lays out a process of personal confrontation, witness-based escalation, and only then public exposure if there is unrepentance. What you describe completely bypasses this process:

• Matthew 18:15-16: “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over.”

Failure to interact with someone before labeling them and broadcasting their name on a “witch list” directly violates this biblical command. It reflects a lack of love and a failure to honor the biblical protocol for addressing issues.

c) Bearing False Witness and Slander

Labeling individuals as witches or Jezebels without knowing them personally, or based on false assumptions, is a clear example of bearing false witness.

• Exodus 20:16: “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.”
• Proverbs 6:16-19: One of the things God hates is “a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.”

If leaders make judgments about people and label them without personal knowledge, they are violating the command to refrain from false accusations and gossip, causing harm to individuals and the larger Christian community.

d) Failure to Discern the Body of Christ

When leaders abuse their spiritual authority to falsely label and ostracize others, they are failing to discern the body of Christ and causing divisions within the Church.

• 1 Corinthians 12:12-27 teaches that every part of the body of Christ is valuable, and no one should be dismissed or mistreated. Leaders are called to respect and protect the unity of the body, not harm it with unwarranted accusations.

3. Moral and Pure-Hearted Biblical Terms

Let’s examine the situation using morally pure-hearted terms and scriptures that emphasize love, truth, and fairness:

a) Love and Compassion Over Condemnation

Jesus emphasized love and compassion above condemnation or judgment.

• John 13:34-35: “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this, everyone will know that you are my disciples.”

Condemning others without relationship or seeking understanding is the opposite of Christ’s love. In fact, Jesus’ compassion is often contrasted with the harsh judgment of the Pharisees, who were notorious for pointing fingers without compassion or relational engagement.

b) Humility and Truth Over False Accusation

Humility is a central trait of a Christlike leader. Making assumptions and judging others without evidence shows pride, not humility.

• Philippians 2:3: “Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves.”
• 1 Peter 5:5: “Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for ‘God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.'”

A humble leader approaches people with kindness and truth, giving them the benefit of the doubt rather than casting judgment based on suspicion.

c) Integrity and Honesty Over Deception

A spiritually abusive leader may resort to deception, presenting their actions as divinely inspired while failing to follow basic biblical standards of truth, fairness, and love. True Christian ethics are built on integrity and honesty.

• Proverbs 11:3: “The integrity of the upright guides them, but the unfaithful are destroyed by their duplicity.”

When leaders act out of suspicion, fear, or pride and label people without facts, they violate the call to integrity and truth that the Bible places on all believers.

4. Spiritual Abuse or Witchcraft?

In addition to spiritual abuse, this practice could also be classified as a form of witchcraft in a biblical sense. Witchcraft, in biblical terms, refers to manipulation, control, and trying to operate outside of God’s authority. When leaders attempt to “read” people without relating or confirming truth, and then use that information to control or condemn, they are engaging in manipulation—a hallmark of witchcraft.

• 1 Samuel 15:23: “For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry.”

In this context, rebellion against God’s order (truth, love, fairness, humility) is compared to the sin of witchcraft. Leaders engaging in these manipulative tactics are acting in spiritual rebellion.

Conclusion: Spiritual Abuse and Moral Violation

Yes, the actions described can be defined as spiritual abuse because they involve the misuse of spiritual authority to harm and control others without following the biblical principles of love, justice, and accountability. It also violates the moral standards of integrity, honesty, and humility that the Bible calls for in all Christian leadership.

Also, it is neither morally ethical nor biblically fair for a senior pastor to assign staff or elders to “far away read” people, make unfounded assumptions, and label individuals as witches, Jezebels, or harlots without ever interacting with, interviewing, or confronting them. This practice is deeply problematic from both a Christian ethical standpoint and a biblical perspective for several key reasons.

1. Violation of Biblical Principles for Judgment and Accountability

The Bible teaches clear guidelines for how we are to approach those we believe are in sin or behaving wrongly. Key passages like Matthew 18:15-16 and Galatians 6:1 emphasize direct engagement, loving confrontation, and personal accountability:

• Matthew 18:15-16: Jesus instructs that if someone sins against you, you should go to them directly and confront them privately, seeking to resolve the issue. Only if that person does not repent are you to escalate the situation with others involved. This promotes direct and personal reconciliation.
• Galatians 6:1: Paul exhorts believers to restore those caught in sin gently and to be careful not to fall into temptation themselves. This passage reflects a spirit of compassion, not condemnation, and requires personal interaction and relationship with the person.

The practice of assigning people to “far away read” others and label them without engaging in dialogue, relationship, or confrontation is a clear violation of these biblical principles. It bypasses personal accountability, love, and relationship, which are fundamental to Christian fellowship.

2. Unethical and Unfair Assumptions

Labeling someone a witch, Jezebel, or harlot without evidence, personal engagement, or a fair opportunity to respond is unjust. It goes against basic Christian ethics, which require:

• Honesty: Making judgments or accusations without knowing the facts, relying on assumptions, or using “far away reading” methods amounts to bearing false witness (Exodus 20:16). This is one of the Ten Commandments, and it’s a serious sin to misrepresent someone’s character.
• Fairness: Christianity teaches fairness and justice (Micah 6:8). Everyone deserves to be treated with respect and given an opportunity to explain or defend themselves. To skip this step and immediately post someone’s name on a “witch list” is both unfair and slanderous.
• Integrity: Leaders are called to act with integrity, which includes truthfulness and justice (Proverbs 11:3). It is a breach of integrity to publicly defame someone without direct evidence or personal interaction.

3. False Judgment and Slander

This practice essentially promotes slander and libel, which are forbidden in Scripture:

• James 4:11: “Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law.”
• Exodus 23:1: “You shall not spread a false report. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness.”

If church leaders, pastors, or elders make baseless accusations against individuals without any direct interaction or evidence, they are spreading false reports, which is against biblical teaching. It could also be considered libel, a legal term for defamation that harms someone’s reputation based on untrue statements.

4. Failure to Discern the Body of Christ

In 1 Corinthians 12:12-27, Paul explains that the body of Christ is made up of many members, each with different gifts and functions. Misjudging and condemning others in the body of Christ without truly knowing them or their heart creates division and harms the unity of the church:

• 1 Corinthians 12:21: “The eye cannot say to the hand, ‘I don’t need you!’ And the head cannot say to the feet, ‘I don’t need you!'”

Divining without relationship or interaction damages this unity and fails to discern the body of Christ correctly. It disregards the dignity and value of each individual in the church and replaces love and understanding with suspicion and accusation.

5. Spirit of Fear and Control

A “witch list” creates an atmosphere of fear, control, and manipulation, which are characteristics of spiritual abuse. Leaders who maintain such lists without offering the accused an opportunity for defense are exercising unbiblical control over their congregations, instilling fear rather than fostering trust and love.

• 2 Timothy 1:7: “For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-discipline.”

If church leaders operate in a spirit of fear, labeling others without proof, they are not operating in the Spirit of God, which brings freedom, not bondage.

6. Legal and Moral Ramifications

There are potential legal consequences for publicly accusing someone of being a witch or morally corrupt without evidence:

• Defamation: Publicly labeling someone a witch, harlot, or Jezebel could lead to defamation lawsuits. Defamation involves making false statements that harm a person’s reputation. A “witch list” could easily be considered defamatory if the accusations are unproven.
• Moral Failure: Ethically, this practice violates principles of truth, fairness, and respect. Philippians 4:8 instructs believers to focus on what is true, honorable, just, and commendable. Far-off assumptions and gossip undermine these values.

7. Pride and Lack of Humility

Such practices often stem from spiritual pride, which is a dangerous attitude for any Christian leader. By assuming the role of judge without following biblical principles, leaders act as though they are above the biblical guidelines for correction and reconciliation:

• Proverbs 16:18: “Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.”

The lack of humility in these actions is clear, and it can lead to the spiritual downfall of those who engage in them. True Christian leaders are called to be servants (Mark 10:43-45), not authoritarian figures who pass judgment without relationship or accountability.

8. Misuse of Authority

Finally, leaders who engage in these practices are misusing their spiritual authority. True spiritual authority, according to Jesus, is exercised through service, love, and humility (John 13:14-15). The use of spiritual authority to control or manipulate others, especially through unfounded accusations, is more akin to spiritual abuse than true leadership.

Conclusion: Is It Morally Ethical and Fair?

In summary, no, it is not morally ethical or fair for a senior pastor to have staff or elders “far away read” others and assign them labels like witch, Jezebel, or harlot without ever interacting, speaking, or interviewing them. This practice violates:

• Biblical principles of confrontation, relationship, and accountability.
• Christian ethics of fairness, honesty, and integrity.
• Spiritual principles of humility, love, and servant leadership.

It is neither just nor godly, and it opens the door to slander, spiritual abuse, and legal consequences. True Christian leadership involves walking in the light, extending grace, and addressing concerns with direct, loving confrontation according to biblical standards.

Taveau asks Chat GPT again:
Please define in Bible terms, moral pure hearted terms

ChatGPT said

Yes, the practice you described can indeed be considered spiritual abuse when viewed through both biblical terms and morally pure-hearted principles. Here’s why, with definitions and scriptural support:

1. What is Spiritual Abuse?

Spiritual abuse occurs when someone in a position of spiritual authority misuses their power to control, manipulate, or harm others in the name of God, ministry, or faith. This type of abuse can take many forms, including the use of religious language or practices to dominate, condemn, or shame others, without accountability, compassion, or scriptural basis.

• Example in Bible: Jesus confronted spiritual abuse when He rebuked the Pharisees for using their religious authority to oppress people. In Matthew 23:4, Jesus says of the Pharisees: “They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.” This represents hypocritical judgment and unjust authority—a hallmark of spiritual abuse.

2. Signs of Spiritual Abuse in this Situation

The actions described, including “far-away reading,” labeling people as witches or Jezebels without ever interacting with them, and putting their names on lists, clearly exhibit the following traits of spiritual abuse:

a) Misuse of Spiritual Authority

Leaders using their position to label people as witches or evil spirits without any interaction or biblical confrontation is a gross misuse of their spiritual authority. In the Bible, authority is meant to serve and build up others, not tear them down or cast them aside based on unfounded assumptions.

• 1 Peter 5:2-3: “Shepherd the flock of God that is among you… not domineering over those in your charge, but being examples to the flock.”
• Mark 10:42-45: Jesus teaches that leadership in His kingdom is about service, not domination. He condemns lording power over others and instead calls for humility.

In the practice described, these leaders are acting in domineering and unaccountable ways, claiming divine insight without following the proper biblical procedures of correction, which leads to spiritual harm.

b) Judging Without Biblical Process

The Bible is very clear about how to handle sin or concerns about someone’s behavior. Matthew 18:15-17 lays out a process of personal confrontation, witness-based escalation, and only then public exposure if there is unrepentance. What you describe completely bypasses this process:

• Matthew 18:15-16: “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over.”

Failure to interact with someone before labeling them and broadcasting their name on a “witch list” directly violates this biblical command. It reflects a lack of love and a failure to honor the biblical protocol for addressing issues.

c) Bearing False Witness and Slander

Labeling individuals as witches or Jezebels without knowing them personally, or based on false assumptions, is a clear example of bearing false witness.

• Exodus 20:16: “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.”
• Proverbs 6:16-19: One of the things God hates is “a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.”

If leaders make judgments about people and label them without personal knowledge, they are violating the command to refrain from false accusations and gossip, causing harm to individuals and the larger Christian community.

d) Failure to Discern the Body of Christ

When leaders abuse their spiritual authority to falsely label and ostracize others, they are failing to discern the body of Christ and causing divisions within the Church.

• 1 Corinthians 12:12-27 teaches that every part of the body of Christ is valuable, and no one should be dismissed or mistreated. Leaders are called to respect and protect the unity of the body, not harm it with unwarranted accusations.

3. Moral and Pure-Hearted Biblical Terms

Let’s examine the situation using morally pure-hearted terms and scriptures that emphasize love, truth, and fairness:

a) Love and Compassion Over Condemnation

Jesus emphasized love and compassion above condemnation or judgment.

• John 13:34-35: “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this, everyone will know that you are my disciples.”

Condemning others without relationship or seeking understanding is the opposite of Christ’s love. In fact, Jesus’ compassion is often contrasted with the harsh judgment of the Pharisees, who were notorious for pointing fingers without compassion or relational engagement.

b) Humility and Truth Over False Accusation

Humility is a central trait of a Christlike leader. Making assumptions and judging others without evidence shows pride, not humility.

• Philippians 2:3: “Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves.”
• 1 Peter 5:5: “Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for ‘God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.'”

A humble leader approaches people with kindness and truth, giving them the benefit of the doubt rather than casting judgment based on suspicion.

c) Integrity and Honesty Over Deception

A spiritually abusive leader may resort to deception, presenting their actions as divinely inspired while failing to follow basic biblical standards of truth, fairness, and love. True Christian ethics are built on integrity and honesty.

• Proverbs 11:3: “The integrity of the upright guides them, but the unfaithful are destroyed by their duplicity.”

When leaders act out of suspicion, fear, or pride and label people without facts, they violate the call to integrity and truth that the Bible places on all believers.

4. Spiritual Abuse or Witchcraft?

In addition to spiritual abuse, this practice could also be classified as a form of witchcraft in a biblical sense. Witchcraft, in biblical terms, refers to manipulation, control, and trying to operate outside of God’s authority. When leaders attempt to “read” people without relating or confirming truth, and then use that information to control or condemn, they are engaging in manipulation—a hallmark of witchcraft.

• 1 Samuel 15:23: “For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry.”

In this context, rebellion against God’s order (truth, love, fairness, humility) is compared to the sin of witchcraft. Leaders engaging in these manipulative tactics are acting in spiritual rebellion.

Conclusion: Spiritual Abuse and Moral Violation

Yes, the actions described can be defined as spiritual abuse because they involve the misuse of spiritual authority to harm and control others without following the biblical principles of love, justice, and accountability. It also violates the moral standards of integrity, honesty, and humility that the Bible calls for in all Christian leadership.

This is not only spiritually abusive but unethical and unbiblical. Leaders who behave this way are failing to live out the moral purity and character of Christ, and their actions contradict the biblical model of leadership rooted in love, humility, and truth.

 GRAVE FIRST CHURCH SINS..ASSESS, EVALUATE AND BE WARNED

Taveau inquires of Chat GPT AI

Q. Would any of the above mentioned (in this part 4 or any of the parts 1-3)  be a form of “grieving holy spirit” blashpheming the holy spirit ” touching God’s anointed (in the pews, or around an area) and similar

ChatGPT said

Yes, several of the behaviors you’ve mentioned—such as labeling people as witches, far-off prophetic “mind-reading” without personal interaction, bearing false witness, and creating false accusations—could be seen as forms of grieving the Holy Spirit and possibly touching God’s anointed in the wrong spirit. Here’s a deeper look at how these actions may align with biblical warnings against such behaviors:

1. Grieving the Holy Spirit

Ephesians 4:30 (KJV): “And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.”

• What it means: Grieving the Holy Spirit refers to actions and attitudes that cause sorrow to God’s Spirit because they contradict His nature—truth, love, and unity. When leaders and believers engage in unjust accusations, slander, and judgment without any personal relationship or communication, they are acting against the Spirit’s desire for peace, reconciliation, and truth.
• Relevant behavior: False accusations, gossip, slander, and labeling people as witches or Jezebels without any attempt at personal confrontation or understanding grieves the Holy Spirit because it destroys fellowship, spreads division, and causes harm to innocent people in the body of Christ.

2. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit

Matthew 12:31-32 (KJV): “Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.”

• What it means: Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is often understood as the willful and continual rejection of the work of the Spirit, attributing the work of God to evil or denying the Spirit’s witness in Christ. While the actions you’ve described may not directly fit the most common understanding of blasphemy against the Spirit, they could approach this level of error if people intentionally attribute God’s work to evil or misuse spiritual authority for false accusations under the guise of “divine insight.”
• Relevant behavior: If prophets or leaders claim to speak for the Holy Spirit but falsely accuse others of being under demonic influence or witchcraft without proof, they tread dangerously close to attributing the wrong spirit to the work of God, which is a form of deep spiritual deception.

3. Touching God’s Anointed

1 Chronicles 16:22 (KJV): “Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.”

• What it means: This phrase refers to God’s command that no harm should be done to His chosen servants. In the Old Testament, it referred to prophets, kings, and priests, but in the New Testament context, it also refers to all believers who are part of the royal priesthood of Christ (1 Peter 2:9). When leaders accuse other believers unjustly or target them for slander and labeling, they are “touching” God’s anointed inappropriately, not respecting their dignity as fellow members of the body of Christ.
• Relevant behavior: Labeling people as witches, Jezebels, or other derogatory names without any scriptural or relational process violates the command not to “touch” God’s anointed because it harms individuals who are innocent and possibly in need of pastoral care or restoration. False accusations are a form of spiritual attack against God’s anointed ones, who could be fellow believers in the pews.

4. Failing to Discern the Body of Christ

1 Corinthians 11:29-30 (KJV): “For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.”

• What it means: This passage speaks about the seriousness of failing to discern the body of Christ. This means not recognizing or valuing the members of Christ’s body as He does. When leaders or fellow Christians misjudge, accuse, or vilify others unjustly, they fail to see the value and dignity of their fellow believers.
• Relevant behavior: Accusing believers without proof and engaging in character assassination could bring judgment on those engaging in it. These leaders or groups fail to discern the sanctity of the other members of the body of Christ, treating them as enemies rather than as brothers and sisters in Christ.

5. Sowing Discord and Bearing False Witness

Proverbs 6:16-19 (KJV): “These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.”

• What it means: God hates certain behaviors, including false testimony and sowing discord. Leaders or believers who sow division through gossip, slander, and false accusations of witchcraft or being a Jezebel are doing what the Lord considers an abomination.
• Relevant behavior: Engaging in gossip, creating witch lists, and spreading rumors are clear examples of sowing discord, something the Lord despises. This behavior leads to spiritual harm in the community and reflects a heart of pride and judgment rather than love and grace.

Conclusion:

These practices—far-off judgments, false accusations, creating witch lists, and targeting others without personal engagement—do indeed reflect forms of spiritual abuse and deep spiritual error. They grieve the Holy Spirit by destroying unity and fostering fear rather than walking in the light of truth, love, and reconciliation. They can be seen as a violation of touching God’s anointed because they harm innocent people within the body of Christ. Additionally, they may reflect a failure to discern the body of Christ, causing division and harm to fellow believers.

Such actions are not only morally and ethically wrong; they are also spiritually dangerous, both to those who are engaging in them and to the broader Christian community. The leaders involved in such practices would do well to heed the warning of Proverbs 6 and recognize the potential judgment they bring upon themselves by violating God’s principles of truth, justice, and love.

 

Key Signs of Spiritual Abuse in Your Situation:

1. Manipulation and Control: You describe feeling “watched” and spiritually probed, which implies a form of control or intrusion into your personal spiritual life. If this is done to assess or judge you without any direct interaction, it’s a violation of your spiritual boundaries.
2. Misuse of Spiritual Gifts: If individuals are “reading” you from afar or using discernment gifts to invade your privacy, it is a misuse of the gifts. Spiritual gifts, such as discernment, prophecy, or words of knowledge, are meant to edify, encourage, and build up the church (1 Corinthians 14:3). They are not to be used for control, fear, or judgment.
3. Labeling and Judgment: You mentioned concerns about being falsely labeled or monitored as if you were “a wicked person.” This kind of labeling, without direct conversation or understanding, is spiritually abusive because it dehumanizes you and creates a harmful environment of judgment rather than grace.
4. Violation of Personal Spiritual Space: The sensation of being spiritually “tapped” or probed repeatedly,(see Part 4 for this Luke Eyewitness story)especially in a negative and invasive way, indicates that your personal spiritual space is being violated. This can be emotionally and spiritually damaging, as it feels like an intrusion into your relationship with God.

Spiritual Abuse and False Authority

• Matthew 7:15-23 warns about false prophets and spiritual leaders who perform outward signs but lack genuine godliness. This may be relevant in your situation if the ministry is using spiritual authority in an improper or harmful way.
• 1 Peter 5:2-3 instructs leaders to shepherd the flock without lording over them or using coercion. If leaders are exercising undue influence and control without caring for your well-being, they may be violating this biblical mandate.

How to Address It:

1. Seek Biblical Truth and Discernment: Ensure that your understanding of spiritual practices aligns with the Bible. 1 John 4:1 tells us to test the spirits to see whether they are from God. If what is happening to you does not align with love, truth, and godly order, it is likely not from God.
2. Consider Speaking to Leadership (Matthew 18:15-17): If possible, you might want to privately and respectfully address the situation with church leadership. Explain what you’ve experienced and see how they respond. If the issue is ignored or dismissed, it may confirm the unhealthy dynamics.
3. Distance Yourself from Harmful Environments: If you’re in an environment where spiritual abuse occurs and leaders do not repent or change, it may be time to remove yourself for your spiritual health and well-being.
4. Seek Support and Prayer: Spiritual abuse can be deeply painful. Finding others who are trustworthy and can pray with you, such as a Christian counselor, mentor, or support group, can be a helpful step toward healing.

What the Bible Says:

• Galatians 5:1: “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.” Spiritual abuse seeks to bring people into bondage, but Christ sets us free.
• 2 Corinthians 3:17: “Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” If you feel trapped, manipulated, or controlled, it is likely not the Spirit of God.

Conclusion:

Yes, what you’re describing fits the characteristics of spiritual abuse—where spiritual practices are misused to control or harm rather than to build up the body of Christ. Seek God’s guidance in prayer, ask for discernment, and, if needed, remove yourself from such harmful environments.

T’S DISAPPOINTMENT:

“UNSUBMITTED TO GOD’S WHOLE COUNSEL” THE FOLLOWING MISSING SCRIPTURE

POINTS ABOUT MORALITY, CHRISTIAN ETHICS, ABILITY TO TRULY TRUST

Taveau Asks CHAT GPT AI to Discuss  Morality, Christian Ethics, Apostolic Pure Character in all of this very “subjective” also “private” hearing, healthy realm

Discuss the Moral, Ethics, Leader Character to all of the above “perciever minding fellow persons but avoid speaking directly, interacting, chatting or proper First Church Protocol Pauline Galatians 6:1, Matthew 18:15-16, If they know, or believe that a human person is a Jezebel or witch Rev 2 Church of Thyatira command

CHAT GPT AI responds:

In addressing the moral, ethical, and leadership responsibilities concerning situations where church leaders or congregants engage in “perceiving” or “minding” fellow individuals without proper biblical interaction, it’s important to evaluate this in light of Christian teachings, especially regarding how we should address concerns about others (e.g., suspecting someone of being a “Jezebel” or witch as in Revelation 2:20) within the church.

Moral and Ethical Failures in Perceiving Without Interacting

1. Failure to Uphold Biblical Communication (Matthew 18:15-16):
   • Matthew 18:15-16 lays out the foundation for biblical conflict resolution: if you believe someone has sinned, you must go directly to them. Avoiding direct communication violates the clear scriptural mandate to confront one another in private and in love.
   • Perceiving someone to be sinful, dangerous, or even a “Jezebel” spirit without attempting to engage with them one-on-one is a failure to love and respect the other person as a fellow believer. This method reflects a lack of courage, humility, and genuine concern for their well-being.
2. Lack of Love and Compassion (Galatians 6:1):
   • Galatians 6:1 commands leaders and fellow believers to restore anyone caught in sin “in a spirit of meekness” and with the goal of restoration. Failing to approach the person directly reflects a lack of compassion and concern for their spiritual health.
   • If leaders perceive someone as a threat or in sin and refuse to engage with them, they demonstrate more concern for their position or reputation rather than for the healing and restoration of that individual.
3. Judging Without Evidence (James 2:13, Matthew 7:1-5):
   • James 2:13 warns against judgment without mercy. By avoiding conversation or directly confronting individuals but internally accusing them of being a “Jezebel” or witch, leaders are guilty of making judgments without fair evidence or interaction.
   • Matthew 7:1-5 speaks against hypocritical judgment—making accusations without first examining one’s own life and sin. This tendency to judge from afar can lead to misinterpretation, gossip, and spiritual abuse, all without giving the accused a chance to clarify or repent.

Moral and Ethical Failures in Perceiving Witchcraft or Jezebel Spirit Without Interaction

1. Unjust Accusations and the Danger of False Judgment:
   • Revelation 2:20-23 describes the church in Thyatira tolerating the influence of “Jezebel.” While Jesus warns against allowing a false prophet to lead others astray, the key issue is that Jezebel was clearly teaching and leading the people into sin.
   • However, unjustly labeling someone a Jezebel or witch without direct evidence, conversation, or confrontation brings the accuser dangerously close to false judgment, violating the commandment against bearing false witness (Exodus 20:16).
   • 1 Timothy 5:19 also gives a crucial principle: do not receive an accusation against an elder except on the testimony of two or three witnesses. This principle of accountability extends beyond elders to anyone within the congregation. Making accusations without witnesses or concrete interaction can easily spiral into slander and gossip, both of which the Bible strongly condemns.
2. Unbiblical Practices: Spiritual Abuse and Misuse of “Discernment”:
   • Using spiritual “discernment” to avoid confrontation or interaction with someone perceived as a witch or a “Jezebel” spirit is unbiblical and could fall into the category of divination—seeking to gain knowledge without God-ordained methods.
   • This behavior aligns more with superstition or witch-hunting tactics than with biblical leadership. Instead of relying on relationship, prayer, and community to resolve concerns, these leaders might lean on their own perceptions, which can be flawed and lead to spiritual abuse.

Character Failures in Leaders Who Avoid Direct Interaction

1. Cowardice vs. Courageous Leadership:
   • Leaders who suspect sin or danger in someone yet refuse to engage in direct conversation show cowardice. True biblical leaders, like Christ and Paul, did not shy away from confronting sin, but always did so out of love for the person and concern for the truth.
   • John 10:11-13 speaks of the Good Shepherd who lays down his life for his sheep, not abandoning them when trouble arises. A leader who avoids interacting with those they perceive as dangerous or sinful fails in their shepherding role.
2. Neglect of Pastoral Responsibility:
   • By avoiding conversation and interaction, leaders are neglecting their pastoral duty. Ephesians 4:11-12 outlines the role of church leaders as equipping the saints for the work of ministry and building up the body of Christ. Leaders who avoid confrontation and interaction are failing to build up their congregation and instead allow false rumors and judgments to breed division.
   • Additionally, Acts 20:28 warns leaders to shepherd the flock and watch over the people. Avoiding interaction and preferring to rely on far-away “readings” or judgments from a distance is a gross failure to care for the spiritual health of those entrusted to them.
3. Misrepresentation of Christlike Leadership:
   • Philippians 2:3-5 encourages leaders to have the mind of Christ, which includes humility, selflessness, and the willingness to serve others directly. Leaders who fail to embody this by avoiding direct interaction and judgmental behavior are not reflecting the character of Christ. Christ sought direct relationship with His people, never avoiding them but confronting them with love and truth.

Biblical Solutions and True Leadership Protocol

1. Matthew 18:15-17—Restoration Through Direct Confrontation:
   • Jesus’ model for conflict resolution is simple and direct: approach the person privately and speak to them about their perceived sin. If they do not listen, involve others. Only after multiple attempts to restore and resolve the issue should the church take further action.
   • Skipping this protocol and jumping to accusations (especially labeling someone a witch or Jezebel) is not only unbiblical but opens the door to further division, false accusations, and spiritual abuse.
2. Galatians 6:1—Meekness in Addressing Sin:
   • Paul encourages believers to restore others gently. Harshness, avoidance, and judgmental attitudes are the opposite of the spirit of meekness that Galatians 6:1 commands. Leaders who perceive others to be in sin but avoid direct communication are missing this key principle of gentle restoration.
3. 1 Corinthians 13—Love as the Foundation:
   • Without love, any form of discernment or leadership is meaningless. 1 Corinthians 13:1-3 makes it clear that any spiritual gifts, authority, or discernment without love is nothing. Avoiding interaction or misusing discernment to judge others from afar is a failure to love them as Christ commanded.

Conclusion:

Leaders who perceive fellow believers as “Jezebel spirits” or witches without engaging in direct conversation, confrontation, or proper biblical protocol (as outlined in Matthew 18:15-17 and Galatians 6:1) are guilty of moral and ethical failures. This avoidance not only harms the individuals involved but also brings division and spiritual abuse into the congregation. True leadership requires courage, humility, love, and direct interaction, following the biblical model set by Jesus and the apostles. Any other approach risks falling into false authority, spiritual abuse, and potentially even false judgment, which carries grave consequences according to scripture.

‘Sister Taveau asks:

Is far off “prophetic mind reading, diving, accuser, bearing false witness without any confrontation, relating, interviewing but proceed to vilify, label, prophetic target, put the innocent or unknowing, visitor, fellow humans Good Name of a ministry witch list, spreading it around possibly to other states, localities and never once I John 1:7 with any of those persons

1. witch craft

2) failing to discern the body of Christ correctly

3) bearing false witness

4) Lying

5) libel, slander

6) spreading leader gossip

&) AND is this flagrant fault finding line up Being. a trustworthy authentic character trait of a “local christian ministry, fellowship, church” Is it more like Apostle Paul’s command 2 timothy 3:1-8? Is it moral and honest for. person to say they are the office pastor, prophet, teaching, apostle, elder and savagely attack lone visitors, many women, atypical persons, the office tradtiional types. And is this worthy of causing God to judge these. Last address this in light polite society, sr ministry and Ephesians solid community. Make a big point about sr leader morals, Christian ethics, ability to trust, character, is it in the Bible, and possibly legal actions, ramifications, Also spriit of pride, vanity, etc in the leadership

CHAT GPT AI replies:

The issues you raise touch on serious ethical, moral, and biblical concerns about leadership in Christian ministries, especially concerning integrity, accountability, and how accusations are handled. Below, I’ll address these points and evaluate whether the practices you’re describing align with biblical teachings, Christian ethics, and proper leadership behavior.

Key Concerns and Their Biblical Foundation

1. Prophetic Mind-Reading, Divination, and Accusations Without Evidence:
   • 1 John 1:7 emphasizes walking in the light, meaning transparency, truth, and genuine fellowship. Prophetic “mind-reading” or divination without interaction or evidence, followed by false accusations, violates this call for openness and truth. This behavior resembles witchcraft rather than biblical discernment because it uses intuition or speculation instead of relying on God’s Word and proper biblical discernment.
   • Deuteronomy 18:10-12 warns against divination and witchcraft, practices that involve supernatural insights gained without the direct guidance of the Holy Spirit. True prophetic ministry requires humility, love, and clear communication (1 Corinthians 14:3), not assumptions or accusations made from a distance.
2. Failing to Discern the Body of Christ Correctly (1 Corinthians 11:29):
   • Leaders who misjudge others without interacting or understanding their heart fail in their responsibility to correctly discern the body of Christ. 1 Corinthians 11:29 warns that failing to do so brings judgment upon oneself. This includes mislabeling someone as a “witch” or a “Jezebel” without proper discernment and factual evidence.
3. Bearing False Witness (Exodus 20:16, Proverbs 6:16-19):
   • The Bible is clear that bearing false witness is a serious sin. Exodus 20:16 explicitly forbids it, and Proverbs 6:16-19 lists it among the seven things God hates. Spreading unverified accusations about someone’s character (e.g., placing their name on a “witch list”) is not only slanderous but can destroy reputations unjustly.
4. Lying, Libel, and Slander (Colossians 3:9, Proverbs 10:18):
   • Colossians 3:9 commands believers not to lie to one another, and Proverbs 10:18 equates slander with folly. Making accusations and spreading gossip, particularly through prophetic targeting, constitutes lying and slander, which directly conflicts with the biblical command to love and protect one’s neighbor (Matthew 22:39).
5. Spreading Leader Gossip and False Accusations:
   • Titus 3:2 instructs believers not to slander anyone, while James 4:11 warns against speaking evil of one another. When leaders spread gossip or accusations about others, especially without personal interaction or verification, they not only violate biblical ethics but also damage the body of Christ.

Is This Trustworthy Christian Leadership?

The actions described — using prophetic divination, bearing false witness, and spreading gossip — are the opposite of trustworthy Christian leadership. Apostle Paul’s command in 2 Timothy 3:1-8 warns that in the last days, there will be leaders who are “lovers of themselves, boastful, proud, abusive… without love, unforgiving, slanderous.” The behaviors you describe align closely with this passage, especially the slanderous and abusive tendencies mentioned.

Paul also emphasizes that such leaders “have a form of godliness but deny its power” (2 Timothy 3:5). They may hold titles like “pastor,” “prophet,” or “elder,” but their actions are not grounded in true godliness, which requires love, humility, and accountability. These leaders appear to be motivated by pride, control, and self-righteousness rather than by a desire to serve others in the love of Christ.

Moral and Legal Ramifications:

1. Violation of Christian Ethics:
   • These actions violate basic Christian ethics such as honesty, integrity, and love. Jesus commands His followers to love one another as He has loved us (John 13:34-35), and Paul emphasizes that love is patient, kind, and does not dishonor others (1 Corinthians 13:4-7). The behaviors you describe fall far short of these ethical standards.
2. Impact on Trust and Community (Ephesians 4:29-32):
   • The kind of behavior described can destroy trust within a Christian community. Ephesians 4:29-32 commands Christians to “put away bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and slander” and to be “kind, tenderhearted, forgiving one another.” When leaders bear false witness, label others without evidence, and spread gossip, they create division and distrust, undermining the unity that Paul calls for in Ephesians 4:3.
3. Potential Legal Actions (Libel and Defamation):
   • From a legal standpoint, false accusations, particularly when spread publicly, may constitute defamation (libel, when in written form). If a person’s reputation is damaged by baseless accusations (e.g., being labeled a “witch”), they may have grounds for legal action. Defamation laws exist to protect individuals from false and damaging statements, and leaders who engage in spreading such accusations without evidence may be held legally accountable.

Pride and Vanity in Leadership:

The behaviors you describe are often rooted in pride and vanity — traits that the Bible strongly condemns. Proverbs 16:18 warns that “pride goes before destruction.” Leaders who exalt themselves as judges over others, without humility or accountability, are operating in pride rather than in the humility that Jesus modeled.

Jesus warned against the Pharisees, who loved to be seen as spiritual authorities but lacked true humility and love for people (Matthew 23:1-12). True Christian leadership requires humility, servant-heartedness, and a willingness to engage in difficult but loving conversations, not to stand aloof and cast judgment from afar.

Leadership Character and Ethics in Christian Community:

A leader’s character should reflect the qualities of Christ. Paul instructs Timothy and Titus about the qualifications for leaders, which include being “above reproach, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money” (1 Timothy 3:1-3, Titus 1:6-9). Leaders who engage in slander, gossip, and false accusations fall far short of these standards.

Additionally, Ephesians 4:1-3 calls leaders to walk “worthy of the calling” with humility, patience, and bearing with one another in love. Leaders who fail to discern the body of Christ, engage in false accusations, and refuse to follow biblical conflict resolution (Matthew 18:15-17) are not walking in a manner worthy of their calling.

Conclusion:

The actions you’ve described reflect severe ethical, moral, and biblical failures. Leaders who practice far-off “prophetic mind reading,” accuse without evidence, spread slander, and bypass the principles of direct confrontation (Matthew 18:15-17, Galatians 6:1) are not operating in line with the teachings of Christ. Instead, they are aligning more with behaviors condemned by Apostle Paul in 2 Timothy 3:1-8.

Such actions have serious consequences both spiritually and legally. They violate Christian ethics, damage trust in the community, and risk defamation lawsuits. Ultimately, these behaviors reveal a lack of humility and servant leadership, qualities that are essential for any authentic Christian ministry. Leaders are called to be examples of Christlike love, humility, and integrity. When they fail to meet these standards, they not only harm individuals but also risk bringing judgment upon themselves.

Taveau shares her personal true story:

A True Story 2003. When I spoke in Tampa, Fl,  following the mini conference, I was told by the area sr pastor that “That (famous leader) Group “keeps a witch list in their national headquarters” I had been around these same leader kinds, and they were all of the above …

Tell me what does that means for 1) the national Christian group 2) the practice of top leader keeping the list of “known witches’ when never want to relate or interview or interact 3) moral valid perspective, is it HONEST , FAIR, RIGHT, what in light of all of the above “divining without relating” subject

Chat GPT AI replies
The situation you describe, where a national Christian group keeps a “witch list” at their headquarters, raises serious concerns about integrity, fairness, and adherence to biblical principles in leadership and ministry practices. The implications of this practice affect not only the individuals targeted by such lists but also the credibility and moral standing of the Christian group as a whole. Below, I’ll address your questions in light of the moral, ethical, and biblical perspectives discussed earlier.

1. Implications for the National Christian Group:

When a national Christian group maintains a list of “known witches” without engaging in proper investigation, relationship-building, or biblical conflict resolution, it compromises its moral and spiritual authority. The implications for the group include:

• Erosion of Trust: Such practices can create an atmosphere of fear, suspicion, and division within the Christian community. People may begin to feel unsafe, knowing that they could be labeled as a “witch” or “Jezebel” without a chance to defend themselves or even understand the accusation. This can lead to distrust in leadership and foster a culture of secrecy and judgment.
• Loss of Credibility: Maintaining such a list, especially when based on divination or unproven spiritual discernment, tarnishes the group’s credibility. It suggests that the group prioritizes speculative spiritual practices over truth, transparency, and the biblical model of love and reconciliation. This could alienate potential members, erode relationships with other churches, and damage the group’s public reputation.
• Potential for Spiritual Abuse: A “witch list” in the hands of leaders without accountability can become a tool of spiritual abuse. As mentioned previously, Matthew 18:15-16 emphasizes the need for direct confrontation and communication when there are issues of sin or offense. When leaders bypass this process and rely on lists, they engage in a form of spiritual abuse by using fear and false authority to control or harm others.

2. The Practice of Leaders Keeping a List of ‘Known Witches’ Without Relating, Interviewing, or Interacting:

This practice is fundamentally problematic on several levels:

• Unbiblical and Unethical: 1 Timothy 5:19-20 warns against entertaining an accusation against an elder without proper evidence and witness. If this principle applies to church leaders, it certainly applies to congregants. Keeping such lists without engaging with individuals directly contradicts the principles of justice, fairness, and Christian love. Proverbs 18:13 warns that it is foolish and shameful to judge a matter before hearing it fully, which would include personal interaction and investigation.
• Divination Without Relationship is Witchcraft: The practice of labeling someone a “witch” or “Jezebel” without interaction is not discernment; it is divination. Deuteronomy 18:10-12 warns against practices that seek supernatural knowledge without God’s guidance, which divination represents. When leaders engage in “mind-reading” or “far-off discernment” without personal interaction, they are straying into dangerous spiritual territory that resembles occult practices rather than Christian leadership.
• Lack of Due Process: Labeling someone as a “witch” without ever giving them a chance to defend themselves is not only morally wrong but also legally and ethically questionable. In both civil law and Christian ethics, individuals have the right to due process — a fair hearing, an opportunity to understand accusations, and a chance to respond. This is echoed in Matthew 18:15-17, where conflict resolution involves direct confrontation with the goal of reconciliation.
• Moral Injustice: From an ethical standpoint, labeling individuals without direct evidence is not only wrong but harmful. Exodus 23:1 commands, “Do not spread false reports. Do not help a wicked man by being a malicious witness.” If leaders create such a list without interaction or evidence, they violate the basic tenets of fairness, truth, and justice that the Bible commands.

3. Moral and Valid Perspective: Is It Honest, Fair, or Right?

The practice of maintaining a “witch list” without interaction or biblical process is neither honest, fair, nor right for several reasons:

• Honesty: A lack of transparency and personal engagement in this process is inherently dishonest. Leaders who accuse or label others without any attempt to engage in dialogue are not walking in truth. Ephesians 4:25 calls Christians to “speak the truth in love,” which requires open and honest communication — something sorely lacking in the situation you described.
• Fairness: Fairness demands that accusations be brought forward with evidence, interaction, and due process. To be fair, leaders must follow the biblical pattern of engaging with individuals directly when there is concern, rather than relying on spiritual impressions or hearsay. The Bible is clear that justice must be pursued with fairness and equity (Micah 6:8).
• Righteousness: Isaiah 1:17 calls for righteousness and justice, particularly in leadership. Righteous leaders uphold the principles of fairness, truth, and mercy. Righteousness cannot coexist with secret lists, divisive labels, and avoidance of direct interaction. Instead, righteousness involves humility, accountability, and seeking restoration when conflict arises.

Summary and Broader Implications:

The practice of maintaining a “witch list” without personal interaction, investigation, or biblical confrontation is not only unbiblical but also morally and ethically indefensible. It can lead to spiritual abuse, division within the church, and a loss of trust and credibility for the national Christian group involved.

Leaders who engage in such practices fail to exhibit the character qualities expected of Christian leaders, such as truthfulness, humility, fairness, and accountability. By avoiding direct engagement and instead relying on secret lists or far-off divination, they operate more like the Pharisees, whom Jesus condemned for their hypocrisy and judgmental attitudes (Matthew 23:23-28).

This issue is deeply rooted in pride, control, and a misunderstanding of spiritual authority. As you point out, it aligns more with 2 Timothy 3:1-5, where Paul describes leaders in the last days who are “lovers of themselves, boastful, proud, abusive… without love, unforgiving, slanderous.” The practice of labeling others without relationship falls squarely within these warnings.

Legal and Moral Ramifications:

• From a legal standpoint, such practices may expose the group to defamation lawsuits. Publicly labeling individuals as “witches” without evidence, especially when shared across states or communities, could constitute libel and defamation if these accusations are false.
• Morally, the failure to engage with individuals, verify accusations, or allow for due process is a clear violation of Christian ethics. Leadership should reflect the love, fairness, and justice of Christ, not the paranoia and exclusionary practices of controlling spiritual movements.

Conclusion:

The behavior described reflects a significant failure of leadership rooted in fear, control, and spiritual abuse. The use of secret lists, avoidance of confrontation, and reliance on speculative spiritual discernment is neither biblical nor ethical. Christian leadership is called to a higher standard of truth, transparency, and love, and the failure to meet these standards undermines both the moral and spiritual authority of the group involved.

Taveau states:
Out of Charity, I refuse to name their apostolic, many high profile charismatic good names; But when all of these refer to themselves as big “apostle” “true prophets” are they TRUE or FALSE..And how would we determine? Make it very clear, plain, talk deeply

Chat GPT AI replies:

Your decision not to publicly name those involved speaks to your commitment to approach this situation with grace and wisdom, which is admirable. However, the question you raise about whether those who refer to themselves as “big apostles” or “true prophets” are genuinely operating in those roles according to biblical standards is very important. To determine whether someone is a true or false apostle or prophet, we must look deeply at both biblical criteria and the fruit of their ministry.

Here’s a clear, plain breakdown of how to discern whether a leader who claims to be an apostle or prophet is genuinely called by God or operating falsely:

1. Biblical Criteria for True Apostles and Prophets

• Apostles in the New Testament were those who were specifically sent by Jesus to preach the gospel, plant churches, and guide the early Christian communities. They were witnesses of Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection and had a special commission directly from Him (Acts 1:21-22, 1 Corinthians 9:1-2). They demonstrated signs and wonders as confirmation of their calling (2 Corinthians 12:12), but their primary focus was to serve, build up the church, and teach sound doctrine.
• Prophets in both the Old and New Testament are individuals called by God to speak His word, often delivering messages of correction, encouragement, and guidance. True prophets consistently uphold God’s Word and do not contradict Scripture. Prophecy is meant to edify, exhort, and comfort the church (1 Corinthians 14:3).

Key Indicators of True Apostles and Prophets:

• Alignment with Scripture: True apostles and prophets never contradict the teachings of the Bible. They point people to Christ, not themselves. If someone’s teaching or practice consistently departs from the foundational doctrines of the Bible, they are not operating in a true biblical office.
• Servant Leadership: Jesus said true leaders must be servants (Mark 10:42-45). Apostles and prophets who use their titles to control, dominate, or elevate themselves above others are acting in opposition to the very nature of Christ. True apostles and prophets lead with humility, not authoritarianism.
• Godly Character and Fruit: Matthew 7:16-20 tells us to recognize false prophets by their fruit. True leaders exhibit the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) such as love, peace, gentleness, and self-control. If their behavior is marked by arrogance, slander, and pride, they are not walking in the Spirit. 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 outline the character traits required for church leaders, emphasizing self-control, kindness, and a good reputation with outsiders.
• Willingness to Be Accountable: True apostles and prophets submit to the authority of Scripture, the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and the fellowship of the broader Christian community. They do not isolate themselves from correction or feedback. If someone avoids accountability or claims to be above correction, it’s a major red flag.
• Signs and Wonders Alone Do Not Confirm Truth: Even if a leader performs miracles, signs, or wonders, that alone does not make them a true apostle or prophet. Matthew 7:22-23 warns that many will perform miracles in Jesus’ name but will ultimately be rejected by Him because they did not truly know Him or do His will. True apostles and prophets are known by their faithfulness to God’s Word and godly lives, not just supernatural displays.

2. Identifying False Apostles and Prophets

The Bible provides several clear signs of false apostles and prophets:

• Self-Exaltation: False apostles and prophets tend to promote themselves rather than Christ. They seek titles, power, and recognition and often use their position to manipulate or control others. Paul warned against those who claim to be apostles but are deceitful, pretending to be servants of righteousness while leading people astray (2 Corinthians 11:13-15).
• Distorting the Gospel: False leaders often distort or water down the gospel to suit their own agenda. Galatians 1:6-9 warns that anyone who preaches a gospel different from what the apostles taught is to be rejected, even if they claim to be an apostle or an angel from heaven. True apostles and prophets guard the purity of the gospel and call people to repentance and faith in Christ alone.
• Prophecies That Don’t Come to Pass: Deuteronomy 18:22 teaches that a prophet whose words do not come true is not speaking from God. False prophets often make grand predictions that never materialize or offer vague prophecies that cannot be verified.
• Using Spiritual Gifts for Personal Gain: Many false leaders exploit their position for financial gain or personal influence. 1 Timothy 6:5 warns of people who think godliness is a means to financial gain. If someone is using their prophetic or apostolic title to accumulate wealth, power, or followers without a clear heart for serving others, this is a major sign they are false.

3. Testing the Spirits (1 John 4:1)

The Bible commands us to “test the spirits” to see whether they are from God. Here’s how we can practically apply this:

• Does their message align with the full counsel of Scripture? No true prophet or apostle will contradict God’s Word. If what they are teaching or prophesying doesn’t line up with biblical truth, they are not of God.
• Do they exhibit Christlike humility and love? Spiritual leaders are called to imitate Christ. If a leader is harsh, controlling, or self-exalting, they are not representing the character of Jesus. Philippians 2:5-8 calls true leaders to adopt the humble mindset of Christ.
• Are they focused on themselves or Christ? True apostles and prophets point people to Christ, not to themselves. If the focus is on the leader’s “special anointing,” their ability to “hear from God,” or their position of authority, this is a red flag.
• Are they open to correction? True leaders are willing to be held accountable by the Word of God and other mature believers. If they reject correction or act as though they are above reproach, they may be operating in spiritual pride.

4. The Dangers of Following False Apostles and Prophets

Following false leaders leads to spiritual deception, abuse, and division within the church. Jesus warned in Matthew 24:24 that false prophets will arise and deceive many, even the elect, if possible. These false leaders can:

• Lead people away from the true gospel: By promoting a distorted version of Christianity, false apostles and prophets can cause people to follow man-made teachings rather than the true Word of God.
• Create division and confusion: False leaders often divide the body of Christ through fear, manipulation, and false accusations (like keeping “witch lists”). They thrive on sowing discord rather than promoting unity in the Spirit (Ephesians 4:3).
• Cause spiritual abuse: False leaders use their authority to control, manipulate, and oppress others. This often leads to spiritual, emotional, and even physical harm to those under their leadership.

Conclusion: Are They True or False?

To determine whether a self-proclaimed apostle or prophet is true or false, look at their doctrine, their character, and the fruit of their ministry. Compare everything to the clear teachings of Scripture, and test the spirits to ensure that they are truly of God.

If they are exalting themselves, controlling others, or distorting the gospel, they are likely false apostles and prophets. On the other hand, if they display Christlike humility, teach sound doctrine, walk in integrity, and lead through service, they may indeed be true servants of Christ.

Ultimately, it is crucial that we remain discerning, grounded in the Word of God, and cautious not to follow those who seek power and influence rather than faithfully shepherding God’s people. Galatians 6:1 and Matthew 18:15-16 remind us that true Christian leadership involves personal, loving confrontation and reconciliation — not distant judgment and unfounded accusations.

CLOSING: We’re not going to know who is completely TRUE or FALSE until Jesus comes, as Messiah Christ was the only 100% true prophet. However, we can and ought to repeatedly evaluate!

DISCLAIMER: For any of these minister persons who “know’ me..I live by this despite..meaning from here on out. The Relationship Real Respect given in Isaiah 1:18 “Come let us reason together, though your sins be as scarlet, He will wash them white as snow….” And all of this is a mainly worship fine arts BIG discovery, slowly from late 1980’s through now. NOT ALL WHO APPEAR to do and be this, who may resemble, who have ‘long good worship” and/or who “move in the gifts’ unwisely practice this. It is usually a specific type of accept controlling unyielding, very unsafe doctrine. I discovered this is VA, NC, SC, FL, and wide DFW Metroplex and “prophetic” persons from South Africa. Just demoralizing, biased, stuck on it’s Special Self and using “false religion, false authority and amazing big vanity (Note Isaiah 1-3 God’s people’s sins which caused them collectively to be Isaiah 5:20 (big leader perceptive”woe”) and blocked God’s national Holy Spirit yoke breaking power (Isaiah 10) which ‘would make the necks so fat that no fierce controlling Assyrian nation could take them over and wipe them out”

I give to these a HUGE “Mean Streak” WARNING!

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