PART 3 “THE AIAND I” ARE YOU SUBMITTED? CHURCH HOPPING + LOCAL “WE ARE RIGHT” RELIGIOUS RULES
MINISTRY AI AND I
2023 SERIES
ARE YOU SUBMITTED?
PART 3 CHURCH HOPPING
+ “WE ARE RIGHT” LOCAL RELIGIOUS RULES
“RELATIONSHIP DISRESPECT??”
CHURCH HISTORY: From “house to house” to “church to church” to”preacher’s turf” to rival “preacher’s turf” now more like …well off established “Firm” to “Firm”..and even
Mega Cult “Famous Name Witch Watching System‘ to ‘FNWW System”
and if we don’t go First ….JESUS REALLY COMES ……
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Around the Governing USA Local Regions, THESE STYLE of “HOPEFUL CHRISTIAN MINISTERS” …and each one of their devout, trusted members…are suspecting , watching and clucking their tongues ASKING:
“ARE YOU, I + ALL THEM SUBMITTED?”
However, not a Pauline stance, for he resolutely voiced
“I determined not to know anything about anybody, but only Christ, and Him Crucified”
Context from Part 2: Taveau Addresses Local Authority and the Early Church
As previously noted in Part 2: Are You Submitted? JESUS AND SUBMISSION, historical records and biblical study indicate that the concept of authoritarian leadership within the First Church only fully emerged after Christ’s death and resurrection. Over time, Roman and Hellenistic influences infiltrated what was originally an Ephesians 5:21 model—a mutual submission in the holy fear of the Lord. This shift led to hierarchical structures and the eventual rise of the fivefold offices as positions of governance rather than simply gifts of service.
Sister Taveau states
Church attending, Hebrews 10:25 “fellowship with the saints” be they great or small is about “
A Christian saved bunch of relationships” And it’s the ‘ability to trust’ and to “feel respect” that draws us back, year after year.
Main Point: It’s ‘how” we act, together and apart that makes it work, that makes a community, a cult, and/or a life enhancing ‘ gift from the Most high God’
Therefore it is the Christ Following many kinds of “human” kind RELATIONSHIPS we need to respect, enhance, edify, comfort strengthen, before the eyes of God and Man
Ephesians 4 Apostle Paul, in fact all of the Book of Ephesians, and every epistle and chapter and Book in the Old Testament and New, is ‘some form of Abiding RELATIONSHIPS (God and man, people with with other people, family, marriage, neighbors, church and far more.
The Power of Relationships: Building Community or Cultivating Control
FAITH IN GOD, IN PRIVATE, IN PUBLIC “REAL LIFE”, IN WINNING MONEY, IN FATIGUING HUMAN PERSONS, IN LIFE SAVE COMMUNITY OR DEATH FILLED DYSFUNCTION
And it is how “we” each respect and act (and also how we react), however only Christ was perfect in this but we can began again..to improve
—both together and apart—that determines the outcome. Our choices shape whether we build a thriving community, a controlling cult, or a life-giving fellowship blessed by the Most High God.
Starting with Genesis 1-2 “prior to the Fall” it was designed, called ONLY and ALL to be about humble, thriving, family feel sort of RELATIONSHIPS
At the heart of it all now, even with the human fallen nature,with Christ’s help there are “intentional divine ” area relationships—the foundation upon which God’s kingdom operates. These connections must be:
- Respected with honor and integrity.
- Enhanced through love and wisdom.
- Edified by encouragement and truth.
- Strengthened in humility and mutual submission.
- Comforting in times of need, reflecting Christ’s heart.
Before both God and man, it is our relationships—not mere religious systems—that testify to the authenticity of our faith.
The Bible: A Blueprint for Abiding Relationships
From Genesis to Revelation, Scripture is a continuous revelation of relationships:
- God and mankind—from Adam to Christ’s redemptive work.
- People with people—friendships, families, and nations.
- Marriage—as a divine covenant reflecting Christ and the Church.
- Neighbors—as those we are called to love as ourselves.
- The Church—a body meant for unity, not division.
Apostle Paul, especially in Ephesians 4, emphasizes the call to unity and maturity in Christ, urging believers to walk in love, humility, and the bond of peace. Every epistle, every Old and New Testament passage, ultimately points to God’s design for relationship—built on love, truth, and abiding in Him.
The question we must ask ourselves is this: Are our relationships reflecting the heart of God, or are they shaped by control, division, and self-interest? Let us build with wisdom, always keeping Christ at the center.
Setting the Stage: Styles of Christian Ministry
Each God-formed individual is unique. Some believers choose to fully commit to a local church, while others remain independent in their walk with Christ. Both approaches have valid reasoning. Some seek structure, accountability, and deep community, while others have experienced spiritual control, manipulation, or even abuse and, as a result, are cautious about formal membership. Still, there are those who may be immature in their faith, flighty in their commitments, or in need of wise counsel and stability.
However, let it be said clearly:
Not everyone is “identical” (take the Myers Briggs Personality Test) Therefore not EVERY HUMAN BEING is called to be a “club member” or “fan” of a specific ministry culture. Church leaders must train their staff, elders, and leadership teams to respect all believers equally—not just those who conform to their preferred structures.
Dr. T also acknowledges that there happes to be ONE MORE new wave of free thinkers, organic innovators, and non-traditional believers is emerging within the Body of Christ. These individuals may not fit within conventional church models, yet they deeply love God and seek authentic community. For those who desire to build bridges across different ministry styles, let’s move forward in unity. For those who do not, that is also acceptable.
The Ministry “Member of The Firm” vs. A Spirit-Led Pilgrim
For some believers, church membership feels like being part of a stable, well-ordered “firm”—a place of predictable rhythms and structured belonging, much like an aged cask of fine wine. Others, however, experience spiritual claustrophobia in highly structured ministries. When leadership becomes excessively rigid, hierarchical, and bound by perfectionism, some may feel a divine leading to step away—not in rebellion, but in obedience to the Holy Spirit’s direction.
These individuals, whom I sometimes call “Pilgrims of the Spirit,” are not to be dismissed as backsliders or rebels. Many are simply responding to God’s unique call on their lives. This is why spiritual freedom must be respected. If God grants someone the liberty to move on, who are we to override His leading?
Apostle Taveau Makes a Great Point
Plus, St Paul warns of dangerous spiritual climates in 2 Timothy 3:1-6 and 1 Timothy 6:5,(now) cautioning believers to discern and sometimes flee toxic ministries. Likewise, some of us, through prayer and sensitivity to the Spirit, may be instructed to separate ourselves from certain movements or organizations.
Why is the list in each Bible verse a real “warning?” Because hurt, scar, use, abuse and defile many “RELATIONSHIPS” (real persons, not statistics, or bodies warming the pews)
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Taveau asks Chat GPT
Purposes: just to cause controversy YES. BUT ALSO to relieve, to put a stop to word cursing, the general Ole Boy accusing, Big Boss, undying local area, metrox, rural, suburban and urban BIG BOSS “CONDEMNATION
Let asks Chat GPT AI if ” Bible Thumping the Church Hopper” is Bible Scripture supported
Pastor Taveau asks Chat GPT AI
“Is it true that the Bible suggests going to a local church? If it does, is there any scripture, any First Church apostolic teaching ‘commanding” taht ‘you must join’?
And did they watch for church hoppers, accuse them in the First Church?”
Chat GPT says:
The Bible does emphasize the importance of belonging to a local church community, actively participating, and submitting to the leadership and teachings of that community (Hebrews 10:24-25, 1 Peter 5:5). Being committed and connected to a specific local church provides accountability, spiritual growth, and deeper relationships within the community of believers. And does the Bible prohibit, command against, “going to more than one church?
(Implied : It is not a legalism to fellowship in more than one church) Chat AI: there can be valid reasons for attending multiple churches, such as seeking spiritual nourishment, addressing specific needs, or participating in different ministries. As long as there is a genuine desire to grow in faith and remain rooted in a Christian community, attending multiple churches may be acceptable. It becomes problematic only if it reflects a lack of commitment, spiritual restlessness, or a refusal to engage in genuine fellowship and discipleship.
In conclusion, the practice of meeting house to house in the early church reflected a close-knit community and shared commitment. Today, attending multiple churches can have different motivations and implications. While being connected to a local church is encouraged, attending multiple churches is not inherently sinful as long as it is done with the right motives and does not undermine the importance of commitment, submission, and genuine fellowship within a Christian community
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MAKING A MAJOR POINT
LOCAL ACCUSATION OF NORMAL EVERYDAY PEOPLE (“relationships under friendly fire”) for attending MORE THAN ONE Church
A prevailing false teaching has infiltrated both large and smaller local ministries, and many small-town congregations, subtly embedding itself into Christian culture. This doctrine enables accusations against individuals without direct conversation or biblical due process. It affects everyday believers—those simply seeking to follow Christ—by branding them as disloyal, rebellious, or “church hoppers.”
This issue is not merely theoretical; it is an ongoing reality. It stems from a historical yet presently accepted Christian tradition that distorts biblical principles. While this writing does not delve into every demonic aberration that an inexperienced believer might face, it seeks to defrag the local accusation culture—making the church a safer space for genuine Christ-followers who are simply trying to live out their faith.
House to House vs. Multiple Churches: A Biblical Perspective
PASTOR TAVEAU ASKS CHAT AI:
“In the First Church, believers met ‘house to house.’ How does that compare to attending more than one church today? Was it considered a sin back then? A sign of being unsubmitted? Not in spiritual order?“
Chat GPT RESPONDS:
In the early Christian church, believers often met in homes for worship and fellowship. Acts 2:46 describes how they “broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts.” Similarly, Acts 20:20 mentions that Paul taught “from house to house.” These gatherings were marked by close-knit community, spiritual unity, and mutual edification.
Attending multiple gatherings then vs. now:
- In the First Church, “house to house” was not about visiting multiple denominations but rather the common way believers assembled. The early church did not have centralized buildings or hierarchical control over where individuals worshiped.
- Today, attending multiple churches can serve various purposes: seeking diverse teaching, finding a safe spiritual environment, or simply exploring different expressions of faith. However, modern ministry culture—especially in certain charismatic, authoritarian, or patriarchal circles—often misinterprets this freedom as a lack of commitment, rebellion, or being “out of order.”
Why This Matters Now
Many modern ministry leaders—particularly those influenced by decades of Christian TV, media-driven celebrity and contentious local area competive (mostly their private turf, fiercely guarding) local pastors,elder also lay and stern controlling “you must obey” hierarchical control structures—have adopted a combined, adversarial mindset toward believers who “move between churches”(TD says Minding their Business Church Hopping)
. This has led to ministry elite authoritarian (Not relationship respectful) condemning, hard line, fear-based legalistic “business minding ” (which I have seen in action and lived among that for a while
It is elite, it Bible stomps, name calls, starts many Jezebel rumors and more. It bears false witness as it will NOT RESPECT (I John 1:7″won’t walk in the light” is not submitted God’s whole counsel, Galatians 6:1 and GET TO KNOW the “human persons” for it it elite, autocratic and poor me false witness, accusing, suspecting monitoring Pharieeism Big Shot-ism. It is not respectful, humble Good Neighbor Ephesians 4 as it is “the all knowing Boss” (Big I, Little you)
Season of Change
Pastor Taveau has witnessed this firsthand among grassroots, everyday believers—especially since celebrity ministry culture has taken root, emphasizing large followings, power structures, and control over God’s people rather than servant leadership.
Also, this is precisely why CROSS BODY UNITY (www.crossbodyunity.com) exists: to “Relationship Respect” the common persons…also to challenge these false narratives, empower believers to follow the Holy Spirit freely, and confront doctrines that distort biblical submission into authoritarian control.
JUST TO DIG OUT ANY”RELATIONISHIP ACCUSING” BIG LEGALISM
Taveau asks ChatGPT
Is there a First Church New Testament, Christian Apostles submission law that is legalistic about the following
- Going to church?
- Joining a church?
- Attending every meeting?
- Attending more than one church?
- Tithing?
- Tithing to only one ministry?
- Any other similar requirement?
And, do any local persons, ministers, pastors, apostles, ministerial groups, brands, or denominations have authority over an individual who does not want to attend or feels led by the Holy Spirit not to go? Does their authority extend to someone who is not an official member of their ministry, brand, style, branch, or denomination?
Chat GPT Replies
Let’s break this down using biblical principles that relate to the questions you raised:
The New Testament offers clear guidelines on Christian fellowship and submission, but it does not lay out a legalistic framework or mandate for specific practices like attending church meetings, tithing, or membership to any one ministry, denomination, or group. Instead, the overarching principles are about following the leading of the Holy Spirit, personal conviction, and voluntary commitment to the body of Christ, without coercion.
Let’s break this down using biblical principles that relate to the questions you raised:
1. Is There a Submission Law Regarding Church Attendance or Joining a Church?
While the Bible commands believers to assemble together for worship and fellowship (Hebrews 10:25), it does not specify a legalistic requirement for attending every service or joining any particular denomination or church. Submission in the Bible is rooted in voluntary, loving service to God and others, not coerced attendance or participation in ministry groups.
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Hebrews 10:25 (KJV):
“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”
This scripture encourages believers to meet together for mutual encouragement, especially as we approach the end times. However, it is not a command to attend every meeting or church activity if the person feels led by the Spirit to engage elsewhere. -
Ephesians 4:11-12 (KJV):
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.”
The gifts of leadership in the church are meant to edify and equip believers, but nowhere does this passage require obedience to human authority in such a way that prevents the Holy Spirit’s direction.
2. Is There a Requirement to Attend More Than One Church?
There is no biblical requirement to attend multiple churches. However, some Christians choose to engage with different churches to experience a broader fellowship, understand different perspectives, or meet their spiritual needs. It becomes problematic when this leads to lack of commitment or fragmented spiritual growth.
- 1 Corinthians 1:10 (KJV):
“Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.”
Division within the body of Christ, such as attending too many churches without commitment to one, may hinder unity and growth in the local body. However, this is not a legalistic rule but a call for spiritual maturity and unity in purpose.
ASIDE : THERE IMUCH RELATIONSHIP ACCUSATION ALSO REGARDING TITHES
3.Is Tithing a Legalistic Requirement?
The Bible mentions tithing as a principle of giving to God, but it does not impose it as a legalistic requirement in the New Testament age. In the Old Testament, tithing was part of the Mosaic Law, but in the New Testament, believers are encouraged to give generously and cheerfully based on their heart’s motivation, not out of obligation or fear.
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2 Corinthians 9:7 (KJV):
“Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.”
This principle emphasizes that giving is about personal conviction and freedom, not legalistic mandates. -
Malachi 3:10 (KJV):
“Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.”
While this Old Testament passage encourages tithing, it is not a New Testament commandment. The principle of generosity and faithfulness to God is important, but the practice of tithing is not a binding law for Christians today.
4. Is Tithing to Only One Ministry Required?
There is no biblical requirement to tithe exclusively to one ministry or church. Believers are encouraged to give where they are spiritually fed, but how and where they give is ultimately between them and God.
- Galatians 6:6 (KJV):
“Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.”
This verse suggests that those who are spiritually fed should share in supporting the ministry and those who teach them. However, the Bible does not restrict giving to a single ministry or mandate that believers must tithe only to the place they are officially “members” of.
DR T’S DOCTRINAL, ALSO MINISTRY AND A PERSONAL POINT:
Mostly Occult witch watching Pharisee, LP, Apostles in the Gates of the City, Cult spirit, WELP, CI, many similar other)
Does a Certain Individual Minister or Sr Pastor, or Apostle, Prophet Have “governing authority” Over YOU without YOUR being told that? MEANS and IF if You Are Not an (signed up) Official Member of Their Ministry?
Chat GPT AI replies
In the New Testament, authority is described as servant leadership, not authoritarian rule. The apostles, pastors, and leaders are entrusted with guiding, teaching, and equipping believers, but they do not hold absolute authority over believers if the believer is not led by God to be part of their congregation or ministry.
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1 Peter 5:2-3 (KJV):
“Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being examples to the flock.”
Leaders are to serve and lead by example, not with a heavy hand of control. No pastor, minister, or apostle has the right to dictate where an individual should attend church or serve if they are being led by the Holy Spirit elsewhere. -
Romans 14:4 (KJV):
“Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.”
This passage reminds us that believers belong to God, not to any human leader. Judging or controlling others‘ choices regarding church attendance or ministry involvement is not the role of any earthly authority.
6. The Holy Spirit’s Leading vs. Man’s Authority
The Holy Spirit leads believers into the right places and decisions, and individuals must discern God’s will. If someone feels led by the Holy Spirit not to attend a specific ministry or to leave a congregation, they are not under human authority in the sense of being forced or controlled.
- Acts 13:2-3 (KJV):
“As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.”
The Holy Spirit led the early church to send out Barnabas and Saul (Paul) for a specific mission. Believers today are still led by the Holy Spirit, and their involvement in ministry should be based on God’s leading rather than coercive authority from human leaders.
Conclusion:
The Bible does not impose legalistic rules about church attendance, membership, or tithing in a specific ministry. While there is an emphasis on commitment to the body of Christ and the importance of giving, each believer is ultimately responsible for discerning God’s leading in their lives.
Leaders are called to serve and guide but not to impose unbiblical authority over individuals who are not members of their ministry. A believer’s responsibility is to follow the Holy Spirit’s guidance, making decisions prayerfully and with a heart aligned with God’s will.
TD Calls it out as Area Presumptive Controlling Authoritarianism (PS USE OF FALSE AUTHORITY, CONTROL AND MEGA, MICRO ABUSE) (mostly DIVINING, DEEP SCANNING WITCHCRAFT OCCULT)
She asks Chat GPT to address:
Chat GPT AI answers
To clarify, there is no specific “law” in the Bible that mandates believers must attend a particular church or be “covered” by a local pastor in the strict sense of a legal requirement. The early church was more focused on communal fellowship, the sharing of the gospel, and spiritual growth, rather than adhering to structured, institutional rules about church membership.
That said, the Bible does strongly encourage believers to be part of a local Christian community for mutual encouragement, accountability, and growth in faith (Hebrews 10:24-25). However, this is not a “law” (TD Says, means it’s NOT GOSSIP FODDER OR ACCUSABLE)or commandment in the same way that certain Old Testament laws were binding. Rather, it’s a biblical principle for healthy spiritual life and community.
In the early church (First Church), the focus was on discipleship, fellowship, and spiritual commitment. They often met “house to house” (Acts 2:46), and the idea of being “covered” by a local pastor or leader wasn’t as formalized as it may be in many modern church structures. The New Testament emphasizes following the leadership of spiritual elders and submitting to those who teach and guide in the faith (1 Peter 5:5), but this submission was more about mutual respect and guidance in the Lord rather than a legalistic covering or requirement.
So, there’s no conflict in saying that while being part of a community and under spiritual leadership is encouraged, there was no strict, binding law requiring the exact structure we see in many churches today. The essence is about spiritual connection, growth, and mutual support, rather than rigid institutional rules.
Apostolic Taveau Discusses and asks CHAT GPT about the following
Discuss differences in ‘fellowship” as in an” alone individual person fellowshipping privately with the Lord”…. VERSUS “ 2-3 .a small group fellowship” VERSUS a larger corporate meeting, even a MEGA MINISTRY
Taveau says: There is a distinct difference between personal fellowship with the Lord and the corporate anointing that comes through gathering in a fellowship group. Both have their place and purpose in a believer’s life.Please expound:]
Chat GPT states:
Personal Fellowship: Encountering God Alone
Scripture shows that Jesus often withdrew to solitary places to pray (Luke 5:16). Isaiah 56:7 speaks of the Lord bringing His people to His holy mountain, a place of personal communion, peace, and divine revelation. This illustrates how personal time with God allows for clarity, peace, and revelation downloads that shape an individual’s walk with Christ.
Corporate Worship: The Power of Gathering Together
On the other hand, corporate gatherings carry a unique anointing. Hebrews 10:25 exhorts believers not to forsake assembling together because fellowship strengthens, edifies, and invites God’s commanded blessing (Psalm 133:1-3).
Matthew 18:20 assures that where two or three gather in His name, He is there among them. This collective anointing brings unity, encouragement, and the outpouring of spiritual gifts that one may not experience alone.
Pastor Taveau makes a point:
“If Matthew 18:20 teaches that where 2-3 are gathered in His Name, that He is “there” and may many people prefer that as opposed to a large more formal fellowship. Due to the big Christian ministry dysfunction the USA primary “turf guarding, accusing religious systems” plus “from such turn away Perilous Times NOW: 2 Timothy 3:1-8, 1 Timothy 6:5
Then (to aide the pure hearted among these pastors in their training of their Ismael Mixture: Dr T inquires in irony”
So if 2-3 are gathered in His Name, and HE is THERE….
…THEN Where Do these Dysfunctional, Flee From Fierce Fellowship and their False Religion, Manipulation, and Control Come from?
Before Chat GPT responds; I say ….”the answer is SIMPLE in on every one of us, even the leaders” and Bible teaching and repentance will cure it”
But now ChatGPT continues
CHAT GPT states
If Christ is present where two or three are gathered in His name, then why do we see false religion, witch-watching, mind-reading, pressure for funds, backbiting, and control infiltrating some church groups? The answer lies in the human heart and the influence of man-made traditions and spiritual corruption.
- False religion arises when rituals and rules replace genuine relationship with Christ (Mark 7:6-7).
- Witch-watching and mind-reading occur when leaders or congregants assume supernatural insight into others’ lives without true discernment from the Holy Spirit, often leading to fear and control.
- Pressure for funds emerges when monetary gain outweighs true ministry, contradicting the principle of cheerful giving (2 Corinthians 9:7).
- Backbiting and control stem from spiritual pride, insecurity, or a desire for dominance, leading to Pharisaical judgment rather than Christ-like love (Galatians 5:15).
LAST CALL: THE PURE CALL TO BIBLE TEACH WHAT IS RIGHT
1. The Call to Discernment
True, Spirit-led gatherings should reflect Christ’s character—marked by humility, love, and mutual edification (Ephesians 4:2-3). When human agendas, fear tactics, or manipulative leadership take precedence, the gathering shifts away from God’s intended purpose.
Thus, believers must remain discerning and rooted in the Word, ensuring that whether they meet alone with God or in a corporate setting, their focus remains on Christ, His truth, and His love—not on external pressures, traditions, or manipulative influences.
2. Preach Paul’s Freedom in Christ vs. Legalistic Practices
In Philippians 2:12, Paul encourages believers to “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” This highlights the personal relationship each believer has with God—meaning each person has the freedom to hear from God individually, guided by the Holy Spirit, and make decisions about their faith journey. This aligns with the idea of personal freedom and responsibility in one’s relationship with God.
However, in a community of believers, there is also a biblical expectation of mutual submission, humility, and accountability (Ephesians 5:21). But this submission is not about coercion or control, but rather about voluntary, Christ-like service to one another. So, the balance between personal freedom and the need for community is important.
3. The Issue with Legalistic Shepherding and “Apostles”
Dr Taveau, you seem to be describing a type of “shepherding movement” or “Levitical Patriarchism” (LP), where there is an emphasis on hierarchical structures, authoritative control, and judgment over individual choices. In these systems, people are often told they must be “submitted” to a local pastor or apostle, and if they’re not, they are labeled as rebellious, undisciplined, or spiritually “out of order.” There are rumors, accusations, and harsh judgments passed on people who don’t fit into the established mold, all in the name of maintaining authority and purity within the church.
These movements, often found within the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), can sometimes create environments of spiritual control and fear. This is where the “Pharisaical” mindset you mentioned becomes problematic. It’s a form of controlling religion that prioritizes man-made rules, titles, and authority over the gospel’s call to love, freedom, and personal relationship with God.
Taveau asks Chat GPT
What Might Be a Future Church (Generation Now)Teaching of ” What Is Right?“
Chat GPT replies:
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Personal Responsibility: Scripture emphasizes that believers should work out their own salvation and seek God’s will individually (Philippians 2:12). This doesn’t mean that we reject community or leadership, but that each person must remain rooted in Christ and be discerning in following any spiritual leadership, including pastors or apostles.
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Submission in Community: While there is mutual submission in the Christian community (Ephesians 5:21), it is never meant to be coercive or authoritarian. The biblical example is one of servant leadership, not control (Matthew 20:25-28). No leader, whether a pastor or apostle, has the right to demand blind submission or to manipulate or control others. Leaders should be models of humility and service, guiding with love, not domination.
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Guard Against Rumors and Gossip: The Bible is clear about the harm of gossip and judgment. 1 Timothy 5:19-20 speaks about handling accusations against elders with care, and Matthew 18:15-17 provides the process for addressing grievances in a biblical manner—starting with a private conversation and escalating only if necessary. The type of “name-calling” and public accusation you’re describing seems to violate these principles.
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Healthy Discipleship: A healthy church is one where people are encouraged to hear from God for themselves, to grow in their faith, and to serve others with humility and love. While it’s important to be connected to a local church, it’s even more critical that this connection is based on mutual respect, encouragement, and a shared vision of the gospel, rather than fear or manipulation.
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Conclusion OFFICE MATURE “REAL RELATIONSHIP” RESPECT
The “freedom” in Christ is about following the Holy Spirit, discerning God’s will for yourself, and being part of a community that encourages growth and accountability in love. The legalistic structures you’ve described, where people are accused, controlled, and manipulated into submission, are not reflective of the gospel. They are a distortion of biblical principles and often resemble the “Pharisaical” spirit that Jesus warned against—focusing on outward appearance and control rather than inner transformation and genuine relationship with God.
Teach the truth that God values freedom in Him, mutual submission in love, and personal responsibility in hearing His voice. Encourage a church community where leaders model Christ’s humility and where people are free to grow, serve, and be discipled, not coerced or manipulated into a false sense of submission.
TAVEAU ASKS AI:
Q. “Have you ever heard of the term ‘church hopping’?”
AI Response:
Yes, I am familiar with the term “church hopping.” It refers to the practice of frequently changing or attending different churches without establishing long-term commitment to any particular congregation. Church hopping can involve visiting various churches regularly, often driven by a desire to experience different worship styles, teachings, or community dynamics.
While church hopping can have some positive aspects—such as exploring spiritual diversity, meeting various communities, and addressing specific needs—it can also have negative consequences, including lack of commitment, superficial engagement, and a fragmented spiritual journey. It is important to consider the motives behind church hopping. If done with a genuine desire to grow spiritually and engage in community, it may be beneficial. However, if done out of restlessness or a consumeristic mindset, it can hinder deep discipleship and accountability.
Ultimately, the goal is to find a church where you can actively participate, grow in faith, and contribute to the community, fostering long-term relationships and shared responsibility.
BONUS
TAVEAU’S BOTTOM LINE PERSPECTIVE on 40 years of ongoing Pharisee
“CHURCH HOPPING” – THE TCL, CROSS BODY UNITY PERSPECTIVE
- It’s nobody’s business unless individuals are being rude, disorderly, or engaging in mischief.
- I wouldn’t have gotten so stirred up about this topic if I hadn’t Luke Eye witnessed it so much. (since 1980s) And also been personally aggressed it for now reason (no relationship, they just peered into my “mind”..POINT These accusations often came from those who did not know the full context of why people might be attending multiple churches.
- From my experience, this issue tends to be prevalent in show biz effected, bitter but trying hard mostly fundraising charismatic communities where they are into “themselves, their gift, their turf, their business ministry success” but are not ‘servant leader” RELATIONSHIP ORIENTED (more on being blessed and ambitious, “winning” (I am not OF these but I am PRO the humans)
THE CROSS BODY UNITY (CBU) APPROACH:
Traditional Pastor Respect with Freedom and Balance
As believers, we are encouraged to fellowship in the church that God sends us to (Hebrews 10:25). However, if the church you are attending is a dysfunctional ministry—one that is operating in a way that is harmful or abusive—then leave. Paul gives clear guidance on this in 2 Timothy 3:1-5 and 1 Timothy 6:5. But this is not about leaving because of being critical, upset, or fault-finding. You should only leave after:
- You’ve prayed, forgiven, and tried to stay committed.
- You’ve attempted to confront the situation face to face (Matthew 18:15-17).
- The negative fruit of the ministry is harming you or your family—whether that’s affecting your children, marriage, health, or overall well-being.
- Then—and only then—flee to a more normal fellowship that aligns with your spiritual well-being.
When seeking a church, remember that it’s essential to:
- Go where God leads you.
- Commit, be faithful, serve, and support the body of Christ.
- Remain there as long as God sends you.
In conclusion, “church hopping” isn’t inherently wrong, but it’s important to approach it with discernment and a heart for genuine spiritual growth and community. The goal is to find a place where you can commit and build deep, lasting relationships, and where you can grow in faith and service to others. If you’re in a situation that is spiritually unhealthy, God may lead you elsewhere, but this decision should come after prayer, healing, and honest confrontation.
! Below are the relevant KJV Bible Scriptures that support the points about church commitment, church hopping, and the idea of leaving a dysfunctional ministry, as well as the principle of obedience to God’s leading
1. Fellowship in a Church God Sends You To
- Hebrews 10:25:
“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”
This verse stresses the importance of gathering together with other believers in a local church for mutual encouragement. It reminds us that church fellowship is vital for our spiritual growth and strength.
2. Commitment and Service in the Local Church
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Romans 12:4-5:
“For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.”
This passage emphasizes the idea of being part of a unified body (the church) where each person has a specific role to play. Commitment and service within a local church are essential to the health and growth of the church body as a whole. -
1 Corinthians 12:12-14:
“For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. For the body is not one member, but many.”
The metaphor of the body of Christ teaches us that each believer is a part of the whole body, and commitment to this community is necessary to fully contribute to the work of God.
3. If the Ministry is Dysfunctional, Leave After Prayer, Confrontation, and Exhausting Efforts
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2 Timothy 3:1-5:
“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
Paul’s warning here is about dysfunctional ministries that operate under a false godliness. When you recognize this kind of behavior, Paul commands to turn away from them. You should leave a ministry that is abusive, toxic, or manipulative. -
1 Timothy 6:5:
“Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.”
This verse reinforces the idea that if a ministry becomes perverse, corrupt, and focused on gain rather than truth and the gospel, it is appropriate to withdraw from that ministry.
4. Confronting and Seeking Reconciliation Before Leaving
- Matthew 18:15-17:
“Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.”
This passage encourages confrontation and reconciliation before making any decisions to leave or break fellowship. Private efforts to resolve issues should always come first. If the conflict remains unresolved, bring others in for accountability, and only then take further action.
5. Only Leave When You Are Directed by God
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Acts 16:6-10:
“Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia, After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not. And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas. And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us. And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.”
This passage shows Paul’s obedience to the leading of the Holy Spirit in determining where to minister. If God is leading you to a particular church or fellowship, follow His direction with faith, trusting that He will guide your steps. -
Romans 8:14:
“For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.”
Following the Holy Spirit’s guidance is key in all decisions, including where to fellowship and when to leave. It is essential that God directs you to the place where you can thrive spiritually, and He will make it clear when it’s time to move.
6. When God Leads, Commit, Serve, and Stay
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Psalm 92:13:
“Those that be planted in the house of the Lord shall flourish in the courts of our God.”
This passage stresses the importance of being planted in a local church. When you are committed and rooted in the right place, you will grow spiritually and flourish. -
Colossians 3:23-24:
“And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.”
Whether serving in the local church or in other areas of ministry, doing it with a heart for God is paramount. Commitment to the work of the church is part of serving God with your whole heart.
Summary
- Fellowship in a church is essential for spiritual growth (Hebrews 10:25, Romans 12:4-5).
- Commitment to a church body is important, and we are called to serve (1 Corinthians 12:12-14).
- Leave dysfunctional ministries only after prayer and confrontation, not out of bitterness or fault-finding (2 Timothy 3:1-5, 1 Timothy 6:5).
- Confrontation and reconciliation should precede leaving (Matthew 18:15-17).
- Follow God’s leading in finding a church and committing to it (Acts 16:6-10, Romans 8:14).
- Stay committed to where God has placed you, serving faithfully (Psalm 92:13, Colossians 3:23-24).
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